We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    If we trade Damian, will grant definitely walk?
     
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    Sean.ivity Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Bingo Bango Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I’m afraid I agree with this. It would be nice to get Lillard a title in Portland, but I don’t see it happening. Cronin, for one thing, doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence as a GM. And if you take a big swing and miss by trading a bunch of young assets for a veteran or two, then you’ve really screwed yourself. On the other hand, with a bunch of young talented players you’re going to have many chances to win a title. I think it’s time to say goodbye to Lillard.
     
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  4. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    impressive list.
     
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    TBpup Writing Team

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    I agree with you. I do want to point out though that the only way we get a sure-fire all-star (like Siakam) is if he is on an expiring deal. But to your point, we would need some assurances first. Either way, it is risky.
     
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  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They aren’t trading lillard like it or not.
     
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    Well we are one of the worst managed organizations in the league so I absolutely believe you’re right.
     
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  9. Predator

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    Uh, no. He literally said “they’re both 2s more than 1 or 3”.

    Did you not catch that part of the presser or what?
     
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    I believe, historically, the #3 pick produces an all-star level player about 50% of the time. If Cronin can get a player who is already playing at an all-star level for that pick, then it's a home run statistically speaking.

    A 50/50 chance at a guy who will be an all-star at the end of his 2nd contract, when he may or may not be a Blazer, is less appealing to me given the current situation.
     
  11. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

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    What the hell?

    Does college experience matter? Sure. Not that much though. (Look at Shaedon Sharpe).

    But playing nearly 180 more NBA games (and im not talking a minute or two) matters a whole lot more than college experience.

    If college experience was THAT amazing, Zach Edey and Drew Timme would be at the top of draft boards.

    College is practically a completely different game.


    Regarding the bold: In his second year he played in 70 games and averaged 20 minutes a game. So I don’t know what the hell you’re smoking but it must be strong.
     
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    Predator The Godfather

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    To top it off, CJ had 476 NBA minutes played.

    Anfernee had 4,375 NBA minutes played.

    If you add the 4 years of Lehigh (3657) to CJs NBA minutes, that’s 4133 minutes, still not as many minutes played as Anf had NBA minutes.

    So, yeah, Anfernee was undoubtedly way more prepared for the NBA game in his age 23 season, given he played roughly 10x amount of NBA minutes as CJ had until that point.
     
  13. 42N8Bounce

    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Agreed. Time to whip out the big numbers -

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    The number 3 pick historically has resulted in a starter (defined as started over half of their career games) 85.7% of the time. It has resulted in an all-star 57.1% of the time.

    I'm not giving this pick up easily. But if the Blazers can net an all-star in the trade, you gotta make that happen.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Man, the 8th position arguably is the worst pick to get.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Give an example trade in which the Blazers get an All Star in return.
     
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    geeeezuzz...it's like I'm stuck in a CJ flashback loop

    I don't think Ant will ever be as good as Porter. Terry could play damn good defense, and was actually an excellent PG. Ant can't play defense, he's not a PG, (even for a lottery team let alone a championship team), will be 24 in two weeks, and was 71st in the league this year in 3ptFG%

    I also think it's a major exaggeration calling him the best 'young' 3ptFG shooter. These guys were better, and their ages:

    Tyrese Maxey 22 (.434)
    Corey Kispert 23 (.424)
    Patrick Williams 21 (.415)
    Michael Porter Jr. 24 (.414)
    Keegan Murray 22 (.411)
    Darius Garland 23 (.410)
    Isaiah Joe 23 (.409)
    Desmond Bane 24 (.408)
    Jordan Nwora 24 (.408)
    Trey Murphy III 22 (.406)
    Kevin Huerter 24 (.402)
    Tyrese Haliburton 22 (.400)
    Jaden McDaniels 22 (.398)
    Austin Reaves 24 (.398)
    Grant Williams 24 (.395)
    Lauri Markkanen 25 (.391)
    AJ Griffin 19 (.390)
    De'Anthony Melton 24 (.390)
    Devin Vassell 22 (.387)
    Quentin Grimes 22 (.386)
    Troy Brown Jr. 23 (.381)
    Tyler Herro 23 (.378)
    Anfernee Simons 23 (.377)
    LaMelo Ball 21 (.376)
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I get it. But as long as we are talking a legit all star, and not a Jamal Magloire all star
     
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    Just give Cha a couple second rounders to switch picks with us and draft Miller at 3 and Lively at 23

    Dame/Mays
    Sharpe/Ant
    Miller/Thybulle
    Grant/Watford
    Nurk/Lively

    I’d try to package Ant/Nurk for something better but that roster is more balanced. Miller and Sharpe could both be all-stars eventually.
     
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    Unconventional idea: 3 and Ant for Zion
     
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