We Have No Plan

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    I have 3 problems with this, Ed:

    1) I disagree with your first point out of hand. It's clear team management were selecting free agents and mudding up the roster with no clear plan in place to deal with it.

    2) I see your point about playing players out of their natural position, but that usually hurts a team and not helps it. Yes, there are exceptions, but building a team via playing players out of position is, IMHO, both short sighted and stupid.

    3) What good is it to have 5 good PG's (not that we do) when only one can play at SG at a time and the 'rotation' is two players deep? Are we planning for 3 injuries? Well, maybe.

    4) Is it really wise to commit 5 players on a 15 man roster to just one position? I can see 4, but not 5.
     
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    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    And Rudy is still here. See what I mean?
     
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    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Good post.
     
  4. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    You had four, it appears :)

    Is that your conclusion or your hypothesis? It seems like your mind is made up, irrespective of the evidence.

    Matthews played the small forward spot in college. Bayless has been a PG for much of his life. I'm not sure that they ARE playing out of position.

    Planning for injury is good. I'd much rather have more good players than fewer.

    SG and SF have a lot of overlap in terms of swingmen who can play both effectively. PG is a more isolated position where there aren't many who can do both well.

    As I said: Bayless is a PG. Matthews very well might be a SF. That leaves us with 3 SGs on the roster. If you give "half credit" as SG to each of the two guys, then that's four. If Rudy holds out/leaves/whatever, then that's 3.

    I don't see a huge problem with this, and I don't think, even if there is no specific consolidation trade coming, that "accumulating the best talent possible" is not a plan.

    Ed O.
     
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    "Here?" Where is "here" exactly? The season doesn't start until the end of October; by my count they've got a good solid 3 months to find him a new home before they even have to worry about a rotation. Worst case scenario he rots on the bench and pouts his ass off.
     
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    WTF is he supposed to do?

    Q: So, Rich, now that you've been GM for 15 minutes, what's the first thing you're going to do?

    A: Well, I'm going to explore a trade of Nicolas Batum for Chris Paul, which I heard was a rumor. I know this is because I was checking out the OregonLive message board and a guy named Mixum was saying that I'd be an idiot if I didn't do this. Then...you know, I've never liked Jerryd Bayless. He sucks! So I'll trade his ass too. And what's up with that punk-ass Rudy Fernandez? It's like that dude doesn't even want to be here. Gone. Lamarcus Aldridge plays a little like a 6th grade girl. I'd trade him too if I get a chance but his contract sucks so I doubt that'll happen. And I saw an MRI of Brandon Roy's knees. Ouch! Can you say arthritis? I know I can! So he's gone too. Okay...next question?

    Just because he didn't SAY what he has in mind doesn't mean he has nothing in mind. Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
     
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    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Have you been sitting in on team meetings??
     
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    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Wesley's signing has just been official today and you expected a few mins later another trade to take place? You have no idea what the time table for any plans the Blazers have let alone know if they have one or not in the first place.
     
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    At the same time, is it worth freaking out about the SG situation, when 2 of them most people couldn't give a fuck if they are happy or not? I don't know how to explain this, but I really don't give a shit if Rudy is happy sitting as the 15th guy on the bench. Then to top it off it's not very often a rookie gets playing time under Nate anyhow. They have to be as good as somebody named Brandon ROy for that to happen. Mathews is an upgrade to Rudy and Martell both. So I am supposed to be upset that a player(s) I don't give a shit about don't get playing time?
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Hmmm. A few quarters. A few nickles. Lotsa pennies.

    Maybe we can parlay all that change into a Benjamin!!!
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    You see here Paul, can I call you Paul?...see there is this guy on the internet, and he laid out this beaut of a plan to nab Chris Paul. So, if you hire me, I am gonna do that. And, hey, thanks for practically inventing the internet and whatnot with Microsoft and all that. Its really cool. Not as cool as your Jimmi Hendrix museum and your submarine, but still pretty good.
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Just go back to the minutes and rotation threads and you will see, even right now it isn't that big of a deal. The only thing that really HAS TO happen before the season starts is Rudy needs to be moved. The rest of the rotation is fine.

    Miller, Roy, Batum, LA, Oden
    Bench: Bayless, Matthews, Cunningham, Camby

    Rookies and Pendy get injury minutes and nothing more. Done, and done.
     
  13. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Maybe he is talking about a move to Centralia followed, possibly, by a move to Seattle? :devilwink:
     
  14. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Actually, I said you were a bit snobbish when it comes to Chinese. For the record, I was referring to food.

    Food.
     
  15. Nate Dogg

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    And they are?

    Jerryd Bayless
    Rudy Fernandez
    Brandon Roy
    Wesley Williams

    Whose the 5th?
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Actually, it's Wesley Matthews.

    Is Elliot Williams a 2?
     
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    Crap I messed up. Ugh. Thanks ABM
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I was listening to WaW yesterday and some guy from Tillamook called in and said we should trade for Paul. Paul is good and he thinks that Paul would put us over the top. Wheels was like...... Okay.
     
  19. Nate4Prez

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    I too would like to know who these 5 SGs are.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Depends on which position you think Elliot Williams plays. Is he a one or two?

    Bayless
    Rudy
    Roy
    Matthews
    Williams (potentially)
     

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