<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 26 2007, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I clarified myself, saying that I did not mean I want another 9/11, but you should read my clarification post to understand that. Now regarding your post, I don't think that a member should ever hope for another member to die, rather there joking or not.</div>"Clarifying" yourself by changing "we need another 9/11!" to "do we need another 9/11?" It doesn't make it ANY better. If it's not you or your family in a burning skyscaper or in Iraq, then you seriously need to shut the F*ck up. You're willing to sacrifice for America as long as it isn't YOUR sacrifice.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 26 2007, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"Clarifying" yourself by changing "we need another 9/11!" to "do we need another 9/11?" It doesn't make it ANY better. If it's not you or your family in a burning skyscaper or in Iraq, then you seriously need to shut the F*ck up. You're willing to sacrifice for America as long as it isn't YOUR sacrifice.</div>If you would read my 1st post, and then my clarification post, you can definately see I didn't mean we needed another 9/11. I was just ranting at the time and misused my words, and said what would happen if we came home and got attacked again. I hope you please, can just calm down, and discuss the situation in a mature manner. Now, with that said....Justice, do you agree with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, or not? And if your country got attacked again, would your opinion change?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 26 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you would read my 1st post, and then my clarification post, you can definately see I didn't mean we needed another 9/11. I was just ranting at the time and misused my words, and said what would happen if we came home and got attacked again. I hope you please, can just calm down, and discuss the situation in a mature manner. Now, with that said....Justice, do you agree with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, or not? And if your country got attacked again, would your opinion change?</div>I'm calm in the sense that when I am as calm as I ever am going to be, I am still going to think that you are among the dumbest people I have ever seen attempt to make an argument, which is saying something.Iraq and Afghanistan aren't the same war, so don't act like they are a combination. We should be in Afghanistan, and we should not be in Iraq because there isn't anything we can accomplish beyond what we have already done (remove Saddam). We can't fix Iraq. If we got attacked again, my opinion wouldn't change unless they found that there is a direct link to Iraq. What you pointed out was a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.You're obviously fairly uneducated on the subject, so you can't understand why I'm asking if you would be willing to sacrifice your family for such a thing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 26 2007, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're obviously fairly uneducated on the subject, so you can't understand why I'm asking if you would be willing to sacrifice your family for such a thing.</div>I have 2 uncles and a grandfather who have served in the military. There more educuated on the subject the YOU, and they agree that we have to be there. It should be up to the troops to come home or stay. They're the ones who are sacrificing their lives for YOU, Justice.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jul 27 2007, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have 2 uncles and a grandfather who have served in the military. There more educuated on the subject the YOU, and they agree that we have to be there. It should be up to the troops to come home or stay. They're the ones who are sacrificing their lives for YOU, Justice.</div>They agree that we have to be in Iraq to protect us from terrorism, huh? I'd love to know why. Tell me, do they watch a lot of Fox News?Whether they have been in the military or not is actually pretty irrelevant to what they know about Iraq. My brother was in the military too, along with uncles and so forth. I don't take every former soldier's word as gospel. That is an appeal to authority, which is another logical fallacy. I would, however, take someone's word who has been to Iraq during this campaign. There are some troops that want to go to Iraq, but I'd bet on the whole that there's just as many that don't want to be in Iraq. As great as it is to think we can fix their home, we can't. They don't want us there. The only way we could really solve that issue over there is by committing genocide (hint: we can't do that). Afghanistan is fine, but that's not where we're concentrated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 27 2007, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Afghanistan is fine, but that's not where we're concentrated.</div>I completely agree with you there man. I would definately want to be focusing MORE on Afghanistan since there are more links to Al-Queda found in Afghanistan. I am not saying we don't need to be in Iraq, we should be to fight terrorism there as well, but focusing more on Afghanistan may bring an end to the person I hate more then anyonelse in this world, Osama Bin Laden. I hope you got my PM by the way man.
