We still have the tax payers MLE, correct?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No--cap holds are based on what exception would be used to re-sign a player. Available cap space doesn't factor into consideration
     
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    How many 2 way players? 2 or 3? We have Skal, Whiteside, Collins until Nurk is back and they have big guys for practice that aren't on the squad. I mentioned it because of cost savings before the trade deadline if needed...say Jake gets an offer we don't match and we get a pt guard instead of a big?
     
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    No because when he was traded he had to approve the trade because it meant he lost his bird rights. So Portland could have signed him to $10 million if they had the cap to do so but in this particular case his cap hold would have been $4.16 no matter what.
     
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    hoopsjock said:
    You can have two 2-way players that can be with the team for 45 days (not games) of the regular season.
     
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    I'm not sure that this is correct. I think that we have been operating under the assumption that cap holds are included in team salary for purposes of determining whether a team is over the luxury tax threshold and/or apron when determining Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, and Taxpayer Mid-Level exception usage. According to the NBA Salary Cap FAQ, they do not count:

    "They use a slightly different calculation for determining the team salary in relation to the Apron (see question number 20). This applies to the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, and Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions (see question number 25), and for Sign-and-Trade transactions (see question number 92). For these purposes they use the team salary as defined above, with the following modifications:

    • All unlikely bonuses are included for contracts and extensions signed under the current CBA.
    • Amounts that could be included in team salary as the result of certain grievances are included.
    • For rookies and players with one year of experience who were signed as free agents (not as draft picks) and whose salary is less than the two-year minimum salary, the two-year minimum salary is used in place of their actual salary.
    • For the team's restricted free agents, the amount of any outstanding qualifying offer or first refusal exercise notice (both including unlikely bonuses), whichever is greater, are included.
    • The amount of any required tenders for the team's draft picks is included (80% of the scale salary for first round picks; the rookie minimum salary for second round picks).
    • The amount of any cap holds for empty roster spots (below 12).6
    • Cap holds for free agents are excluded.
    • Cap holds for first round draft picks are excluded.
    • Cap holds for the team's outstanding exceptions are excluded."
    Maybe I'm missing something, but if that's correct, spotrac may be correct.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q13
     
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    Add up the actual salaries and dead money showing on spotrac--factoring in the Whiteside trade. We're already over the apron, even excluding Layman and Little's cap holds.
     
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    thanks guys.
     
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    I'm not getting what you're trying to say?

    Hood's cap hold didn't count against our tax number but once we sign him it certainly counts. We'd be hard capped if we signed him to $7.8 million and then we wouldn't be able to take on that extra salary in the Whiteside trade.

    Please help me understand your post and how it matters in this situation?
     
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    True, but I was speaking of the state of things at the time of the Hood deal. BUT, I see that the piece I wasn't factoring in is that the salary AFTER the deal is made is what counts. Even though Hood's cap hold was excluded, the actual salary he's signed for is computed into team salary for cap purposes.

    Salary cap stuff makes my head ache.
     
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    It has a different effect on me. All my wife has to do is whisper "salary aggregation" into my ear, and...

    Um...never mind.
     
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    You are a seriously disturbed individual. ;)
     
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    What can I say; I like nerdy talk.
     
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    Salary aggregation does it for you huh? I prefer Traded Player Exception!
     
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    Me, too.
     
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    I'll bet phone sex workers don't have a clue about you guys
     
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    ...with all due apologies for changing PtldPlatypus' wording...
     
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    speaking of accountants....where's jlprk?...last two days are as Trader Bob as he could dream for
     
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    Okay, recognition of your problem is a good first step to recovery.

    I just don’t want to read anything about premature aggregation.
     
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    He got ticked off months ago and exited the forum.
     

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