<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10 </div> Ryan Anderson, Jon Brackman, Devon Hardin. plud being doubled team. he also didn't play in the beginning of the year, so he didn't play those weak team, that all the other players played to make their stats look better. </div> my point exactly, these guys should be chopped liver for a guy thats supposed to be "a top big in this draft" The rest of those guys are 2nd rounders. </div> So he supposed to be putting up what 30 points, in a defensive conference, where the pace of the game is very slow? </div> Rethink what you're arguing about. Not PPG... </div> Well FG% anywayz. Your playing a slow pace game, where teams are able to get their defense set and focus on you, it'll be very difficult to score when your the only offense on your team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth. </div> Frye is like Lamarcus Aldridge lite, and I meant to include the pick too.
It's pretty sad when Bayless a guy almost a foot shorter shoots 46% from FG against better players (not as close to the hoop) which is comparable to Brook Lopez and his 47% FG against crap competition
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth. </div> Frye is like Lamarcus Aldridge lite, and I meant to include the pick too. </div> Gordon & Hughes for Roy and filler. Take Hinrich if you want him over Hughes.
Bayless wasn't consistently double-tripled team. He had a balanced team to work with. he had a Chase Budinger in the perimeter with him, and had a Jordan Hill playing on the block.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth. </div> Frye is like Lamarcus Aldridge lite, and I meant to include the pick too. </div> Gordon & Hughes for Roy and filler. Take Hinrich if you want him over Hughes. </div> haha nice try. I just don't see Portland trading Roy unfortunately
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bayless wasn't consistently double-tripled team. He had a balanced team to work with. he had a Chase Budinger in the perimeter with him, and had a Jordan Hill playing on the block.</div> I give up. sometimes a mancrush just can't be broken.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth. </div> Frye is like Lamarcus Aldridge lite, and I meant to include the pick too. </div> Gordon & Hughes for Roy and filler. Take Hinrich if you want him over Hughes. </div> Yes, Carter15nets hacked me.
1.7% It's a celebration b****es I'm glad Beasley didn't end up in the west. I know your weakest position is PG, but I would draft Beasley. Draft Rose and trade him to Miami for Beasley and a few second rounders. You won't have to pay him as much.
Let's see, in the past couple of the drafts, the Sonics have taken Nick Collison (lottery), Johan Petro (lottery), Mouhamed Sene (lottery), Robert Swift (lottery), and Mickael Gelabale, who showed a lot of promise last season. That's five bigs on a roster, four of whom are still raw and developing. Unless you have a can't miss type of talent fall into your lap, like Beasley, it would be pretty foolish to take yet ANOTHER young big to develop. To top it all off, they still have Chris Wilcox, and they still have Donyell Marshall under contract for next season. So yes, it's probably time to start drafting at other areas, like point guard. Drafting someone like Bayless or even Gordon to go along with Durant and Green will do wonders for their future. Not to mention they still have plenty of undeveloped bigs on their roster. Drafting Brook Lopez would be pretty stupid especially considering they do have other needs. That would just be like the Atlanta Hawks taking forward after foward every draft
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ May 20 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let's see, in the past couple of the drafts, the Sonics have taken Nick Collison (lottery), Johan Petro (lottery), Mouhamed Sene (lottery), Robert Swift (lottery), and Mickael Gelabale, who showed a lot of promise last season. That's five bigs on a roster, four of whom are still raw and developing. Unless you have a can't miss type of talent fall into your lap, like Beasley, it would be pretty foolish to take yet ANOTHER young big to develop. To top it all off, they still have Chris Wilcox, and they still have Donyell Marshall under contract for next season. So yes, it's probably time to start drafting at other areas, like point guard. Drafting someone like Bayless or even Gordon to go along with Durant and Green will do wonders for their future. Not to mention they still have plenty of undeveloped bigs on their roster. Drafting Brook Lopez would be pretty stupid especially considering they do have other needs. That would just be like the Atlanta Hawks taking forward after foward every draft</div> i love you
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ May 20 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let's see, in the past couple of the drafts, the Sonics have taken Nick Collison (lottery), Johan Petro (lottery), Mouhamed Sene (lottery), Robert Swift (lottery), and Mickael Gelabale, who showed a lot of promise last season. That's five bigs on a roster, four of whom are still raw and developing. Unless you have a can't miss type of talent fall into your lap, like Beasley, it would be pretty foolish to take yet ANOTHER young big to develop. To top it all off, they still have Chris Wilcox, and they still have Donyell Marshall under contract for next season. So yes, it's probably time to start drafting at other areas, like point guard. Drafting someone like Bayless or even Gordon to go along with Durant and Green will do wonders for their future. Not to mention they still have plenty of undeveloped bigs on their roster. Drafting Brook Lopez would be pretty stupid especially considering they do have other needs. That would just be like the Atlanta Hawks taking forward after foward every draft</div> i love you </div> ...I see.
None of their big has developed well. Robert Swift isn't the same developing prospect he was a couple of years ago. Saer Sene is just to raw and will never do much, Johan Petro is a nice looking prospect, but he's more of a energy, Someone who comes off the bench block shots, does alot of dirty work. Chris Wilcox should be traded this summer. The player Durant will benefit fromt he most is Lopez, cause of the attention he'll command in the post, it'll let someone like Durant do alot more int he perimeter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Wilcox should be traded this summer.</div> How do you know that..?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth. </div> Frye is like Lamarcus Aldridge lite, and I meant to include the pick too. </div> Gordon & Hughes for Roy and filler. Take Hinrich if you want him over Hughes. </div> haha nice try. I just don't see Portland trading Roy unfortunately </div> I already said it's tough to find a win-win with Portland. The trade I suggested gives Portland a big 4 instead of big 3. Gordon scores about the same as Roy did last season, Hinrich gets as many assists and gives you 3pt shooting and defense. It's not as bad a deal as it seems at first glance.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I could see a package of Jack and Raefs expiring and pick for Hinrich and future pick or something</div> LOL You don't realize how much Paxson has invested in Hinrich. He's not going to dump him for cap space. Hinrich has been, and still is, the face of the team, and arguably/likely its best player.
Can someone explain why is PG Chicago's weakest position? They have Hinrich and Duhon, plus Gordon handles the ball a lot. The biggest knock on the Bulls recently has been lack of front court scoring.. and Drew Gooden is not exactly the answer for that, neither is Tyrus Thomas or Noah. If they draft Rose they create a real logjam in backcourt, and will probably be forced to get rid of Hinrich for pennies on the dollar, while still remaining a perimeter shooting team. Call me crazy, but I think this is a no brainer for CHI.
