Western Conference All Star Guards

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  1. Further

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    Lets just look at the numbers in no particular order

    ppg/ apg/ rpg/ stl/ team record

    18.4/ 11.2/ 2.9/ .42/ 21:13

    30.6/ 4.5/ 5.7/ 2.09/ 26:6

    20.3/ 4.3/ 5.1/ 1.46/ 14:19

    22.9/ 5.0/ 4.7/ .92/ 22:13

    19.7/ 9.8/ 4.0/ 1.0 / 18:15

    20.1/ 10.6/ 4.6/ 2.14/ 15:16


    Thats
    Nash
    Kobe
    T Evans
    Roy
    Williams
    Paul

    Just from looking at the stats, I would say Paul and Kobe are the locks. Nash, Williams and Roy all have things in their favor. I think Evans is out in the cold for this year.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Team records matter a lot when it comes to coaches voting.
     
  3. Further

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    I don't think Stern would put up a stink if he claimed a sore ankle.
     
  4. KingSpeed

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    Roy is carrying his team to victories despite much adversity. Monta has yet to figure out a way to get his team 10 wins. They're not even CLOSE in this discussion. Roy will get MVP votes. Monta will not.
     
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    Oh and there are only 3 players who average at least 22ppg, 5.0 apg, & 4.5 rpg: LeBron, Wade, & Roy.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Does a sprained ego count?
     
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    There's only 3 players averaging 19.5 ppg and 9.5 apg too. They're all in the western conference. See, I can do it too.
     
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    I think it should be Kobe and Paul as the starters, with Nash, Roy and Williams as the reserves.
     
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    How is CP3 able to garner so many votes? Not that his stats aren't insane, but how was he able to become such a high vote getter amongst the stupid casual fans while playing in New Orleans? It's not like he's a highlight dunk machine or had superstar hype first couple years.. Roy is putting up amazing stats right now, but is in 10th in voting behind guys like Aaron Brooks.. How did CP3 make that jump?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    His games don't end at 12:30 AM Eastern ... and he is a cut above Roy.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    He has led the league in assists and steals for a couple years now. Even stupid fans pay attention to things like that.
     
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    I think Nash is a shoe-in. Williams should go, just because he's good enough, but hasn't.
     
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    evans is a rookie witha 17.89 PER on a losing team. ellis is among the league leaders in scoring but only has a 17.27 PER and plays for one of the worst teams in the league. neither is remotely in contention to make it. even if the west took 6 guards neither would make it (billups would).

    right now i would guess it's not really even close between roy and deron either, but at least that is debatable. roy has a higher PER - top 10 (top 5?) in the league over the last month, recent national TV exposure and hype as a superstar leading his team to wins in the face of abversity, and obviously the blazers have the better record and are tied for the division lead.

    should be in order kobe, paul, nash/roy, deron/billups (with billups chances hurt by current injury). if mcgrady plays it will probably cost deron a spot.
     
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    i don't think it will happen - with bynum fading and so many deserving guards there's no reason the west shouldn't be able to take 5.

    but if it came to that, nash is leading the league in assists and #9 in the league in PER, williams is 3rd in assists and only #31 in PER, and the Suns have the better record, so as of right now it wouldn't be close.
     
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    Well, this is a really tough month and if the Blazers go on a losing streak, which is possible with all the injuries, Roy et. al. playing so many minutes, and the tough competition, then Roy could find himself on the outside looking in. I think he will make it, and as of right now should almost certainly make it, but a skid by the Blazers coupled with either poor play from Roy or a stepping up by Evans or Billups could change things.

    When do the coaches vote?
     

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