What a great country we live in! Couple fined for not hosting same-sex marriage

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  1. Denny Crane

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    It's their home. Not at all as simple as you make it.
     
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    They weren't forced to make it a place of business. They freely chose to.

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    You did notice the singular male?
     
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    It's still their home. No matter how you pretend it isn't.
     
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    Married to anther person. That might be any sort of person, not specifically female.
     
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    Ok, it's their home. So what?

    So if I live upstairs from my restaurant I don't have to serve blacks?

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    Your analogy is weak. You don't live IN the restaurant. The restaurant has a parking lot that the public may not freely use. They have the right to tow your car.
     
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    the male partner in a marriage
     
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    Two "the male partners" in some marriages. Get used to it.
     
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    So we are changing the meaning of the word. Nice of you to fess up.
     
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    Merriam-Webster definition of marriage:

    : the relationship that exists between a husband and a wife

    : a similar relationship between people of the same sex

    : a ceremony in which two people are married to each other
     
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    I don't think the farm people sell marriage ceremonies to be held in their bedroom. And even if they did, should that exempt them from all laws?

    Who is 'they' that will tow my car from the parking lot of my restaurant? I'm unclear on your point there.

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    Is there something wrong with changing the meaning of words? And if there is, wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the English language (and probably all human languages)?

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    It's their back yard. "Their" being a pretty important word. It implies property rights.

    If you accept payment one time to have a friend's marriage in your yard, can everyone else sue you if you refuse them?

    Property rights matter a whole lot.
     
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    It's my restaurant (or B&B, if you insist that I live "in" the restaurant).

    No. But if you accept all the available business from white people, or straight people, and turn away the blacks or gays, then yes, you can be sued.

    Sure. But they aren't the only thing that matters.

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    Sure. But they aren't the only thing that matters.

    barfo[/QUOTE]

    Readers know that I’ve come to support same-sex marriage. But I can’t understand why clergymen and -women are free in New York to opt out of joining in marriage homosexual couples, but the law gives not a lick of respect to non-ordained people of faith.

    That's from the OP, and correct.
     
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    So, everyone should be allowed to ignore whatever laws they want to, if they claim it is for religious reasons?

    Or just Christians?

    My religion says it's ok to take an enormous amount of drugs and drive my car 150mph on crowded city streets. You'll defend my right to do so, correct? After all, it's my religion!

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    No, there is a religion that is free to partake in ayahuasca in New Mexico (schedule 1 drug). There is another religion in Arizona that can partake in peyote ceremonies as well.

    Those religions aren't Christian.

    Next?
     
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    You are focusing on the (admittedly half-assed) example rather than the actual point.

    Can any/all laws be broken if someone claims a religious reason to do so?

    If not, where do you draw the line?

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