What a great country we live in! Couple fined for not hosting same-sex marriage

Lol!

 

I agree.

A business should not be allowed to refuse service for things like dress code or things like open carry of firearms.

 

It really is sad that it took that long for someone to hit that grapefruit that I lobbed over the plate.


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I was gonna post something, but I was worried that it was going to offend Jeffrey

 

I still don't think its right that a business can discriminate against others based upon their religious beliefs. Whether or not they are fined by the Gov is another thing. We have discrimination laws in place for a reason. Gays/Blacks Jews/Mexicans Women/Men, whatever, they all should have the same treatment at a business in the USA.

If religious beliefs cause you to discriminate against people then you shouldn't be in business in a country where there are discrimination laws.

 

In the end what's right will be wrong and what's wrong will be right.
We must be very close to the end.

 

I get what you are saying, but their farm isn't a church, it is a space that is rented out; it's a business. They use their space to make money.

Whether it's your home or not, if you are performing business there are laws against discrimination. Allowing people to bend laws because it violates religious beliefs is bullshit. Anyone could then come up with whatever the fuck religion they wanted to get around any law, and I believe the idea to allow that is B.S.

 

Not in the case of polygamist religious beliefs or marrying children by arrangement to old men. There are a lot of religious beliefs to address when it comes to legalities. In the case of gay marriage, I think it's not such an issue but for example, if a gay person wanted multiple husbands, wives, etc. or to marry a 16 year old, it would be a factor

 

Yes, but stating that religions cannot be free from laws isn't the case all the time. That's the start of the argument.

And let's be real here. Being able to marry an 8 year old as oppose to refusing service is quite the difference don't you think?

 

Dude, that is not true read the OP. It said they refused to hold the ceremony on their land which is being used as a business for other ceremonies. Which was recorded.

There is nothing in the OP about the owners being forced to participate. They refused to host the damn thing. Hosting doesn't mean they have to participate. They could have allowed the ceremony to happen, while having employees handle all the planning/direction. They could have kept to themselves in their home, while their farm was being used in the ceremony.

 

Yeah... I believe that two people should be able to join together and have the same tax/benefit/etc treatment as regular married people. When we made discrimination laws in USA, we opened ourselves up to removing/changing special benefits for some people but not the other, as an example, like you posted, the word/idea of marriage.

So in other words, we either adjust/change the definition of marriage, or we create a new word and attach the same legal benefits/etc to it for others.

 

The difference is, they open themselves up to the laws of the land when they start running a business out of their home.


What you're saying is that it's okay that I open a computer repair shop out of my house but I tell every white person that they can't get their computer serviced here because I only serve minorities, since that is what my religion says I must do. It's okay right because its my house and my religious view? "I'm sorry, I dont agree with you being white, so no service" .... BS.