<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Flow, just so you know, there's a lot more to defense than blocking. Weakside help, defending the pick and roll, man to man, all that is part of defense. Bosh, at this stage, is just not a good defensive player yet. It doesn't help him that he's a twig down on the blocks either. Aside from that, I think, for 'Melo to reach the level of a Wade or LeBron, I really think he just needs some playoff success. Cause if you really look at it, LeBron, outside of setting up his teammates, is rather one dimensional. He's still not a great defensive player by any means. Wade, while a better defender than each of them, is rather one dimensional on offense though. He still hasn't developed the most consistent jump shot in the world and relies a lot on his ability to get to the hoop to score. If we talk offensively, 'Melo probably has the most developed game. He can score in the post, he's got a good touch from the perimeter, he can hit the three, he's clutch, and he became very consistent last year. LeBron and Wade still have their inconsistencies with shooting the ball. So, while I still think Wade and LeBron are ahead of him, it's not because of their game, it's because of their success in the playoffs. LeBron has had some modest success thus far while Wade has already won a title and went to the ECF before even doing that. All 'Melo has done is three first round eliminations. He needs to learn how to win in the playoffs before he reaches those two guys' level.</div>You're right, I like forgot it . I'm kinda embarresed atm ;D but yeah, you're right . i kinda talked only about blokcing but yeah we were talkin 'bout defense itself . yeah .
It's a combination of playoff success and being flashy. Both D-Wade and Lebron have all the highlights that you just have to go "wow". For Melo, you know most of points are shooting, and his dunking is just average. He is going to be more like a Paul Pierce player.
'Melo is a great player and scorer, but simply doesn't bring the hype (by hype I mean media dick riding) that LeBron or Wade brings. If Carmelo improves his defense a little and his "just a Glenn Robinson scoring clone" then he'll definitely get more attention.
So what have we got as necessities for Melo? Defense, Passing, Media, and more importantly Success. Get these things and he'll be mentioned in with Wade and LeBron.
Other than improving his off-court image and playoff performances, I think that what Carmelo needs is an X-Factor attribute. Sure, he can make clutch shots, but that can't take over a game. LeBron and Wade can drive through an entire team, get hit, and still make the basket. Carmelo can't. He needs to improve some sort of ability, whether it be shooting, driving or any other ability to take over a game. Then he will be portrayed in the same class as LeBron and Wade.
Well, he's still very young at the age of 22. I see 30 PPG, 6 RPG, 3 APG in the near future. For now he has to be a little more versatile. If his RPG and APG went up, then he'd be mentioned along with Wade and LeBron (stats wise). Wade has already won a championship, and LeBron almost made it to the ECF. Melo needs success in the playoffs.
Last year was also terrible for him in the playoffs, not just the fact the he's not advancing, but he's playing horrible in the post-season.
Melo isn't versatile enough to excel at more than one position. He is a small forward and most small forwards in this league are looking to score rather than get his teammates involved. Wade and LeBron are versatile enough to play multiple positions on the perimeter and they are also, b/c of their ball handling abilities, able to set up their teammates better than Melo at this point. Melo should be a better rebounder than both of them but I think that he takes so much of a pounding every night trying to score that he allows the other non-skilled front court players (no team in the league has more than the Nuggets) to get the majority of the rebounds. If he put in the effort I could see him averaging 8 to 9 boards a game. As a freshman at Syracuse he averaged over 10 boards a game. Melo is a special talent who I believe is underrated. He isn't surrounded by any shooters so it makes it easier for teams to double team him. He spends the majority of the time on the wings or in the post unlike Wade and James who do most of their damage in the center of the court. Carmelo doesn't need the ball as much as James and Wade to be effective and that is why he has been able to score very efficiently in these World Championships. In Melo's defense in the postseason he has faced superior teams in each of his first three seasons -- and his team never had home court advantage in any of the series. He should have played much better than he did but I think that his struggles were directly related to the fact that his teammates pose no legitimate scoring threat to any of the three teams he faced in the postseason. LeBron and Wade have had better careers than Melo to this point but I don't think that the gap between them is large. Once Melo is able to have success in the postseason he will be able to establish himself as one of the best players in the NBA.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Flow:</div><div class="quote_post">Bosh has long arms and he can block very well, he just needs to learn timing and I think he'll be a good blocker someday . Melo is a great shooter and a clutch player, but he doesn't bring something . Maybe he just doesn't entertain people as much as needed . He doesn't play good D, no rebounds, not many assists . IMO he just isn't a good leader, he needs a star next to him for accomplishments . That's my opinion .</div> I agree, Bosh indeed has long arms...
