What are the pros and cons of each Presidential Candidate and what they stand for?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obama pros:
good speaker
youth

cons:
inexperience

mccain pros:
experience

cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

I thought infidelity was endearing to liberals?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ Jul 29 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obama pros:
good speaker
youth

cons:
inexperience

mccain pros:
experience

cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

I thought infidelity was endearing to liberals?
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Only if she's hot.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jul 29 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ Jul 29 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obama pros:
good speaker
youth

cons:
inexperience

mccain pros:
experience

cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

I thought infidelity was endearing to liberals?
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Only if she's hot.
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are you sure???

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ Jul 29 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>are you sure???

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Hell yes! Monica goes down! That makes her way hot!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obama pros:
good speaker
youth

cons:
inexperience

mccain pros:
experience

cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

Damn, that was vicious. Heh, I 'm surprised this hasn't come up more often.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's been married to his current wife for a long time.</div>

Still in this dirty world of politics, it just surprises me a little.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 29 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

Damn, that was vicious. Heh, I 'm surprised this hasn't come up more often.
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Personally, I really don't care that he did that. To me, that's between him, his wife, and that broad. It won't change my opinion of him, unless he is throwing someone else under the bus for infidelity. In my lifetime, I have watched Congressmen and one President get caught cheating on their spouses. Both liberals and conservatives, multiple times.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 29 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obama pros:
good speaker
youth

cons:
inexperience

mccain pros:
experience

cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

Damn, that was vicious. Heh, I 'm surprised this hasn't come up more often.
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It's an inexcusable violation of marriage.

The reason why it hasn't come up often is because John McCain already has talked about it at length, saying it was completely his fault, and he is still friends with his ex-wife.

Another reason is that people know McCain spent 5 1/2 years in hell. He obviously came back fucked up and had to recover, so they give him a pass. It is inexcusable, but that's probably why nobody brings it up.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 29 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

Damn, that was vicious. Heh, I 'm surprised this hasn't come up more often.
</div>

Personally, I really don't care that he did that. To me, that's between him, his wife, and that broad. It won't change my opinion of him, unless he is throwing someone else under the bus for infidelity. In my lifetime, I have watched Congressmen and one President get caught cheating on their spouses. Both liberals and conservatives, multiple times.
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Yeah that wouldn't affect my vote or anything (I'm going Barry either way), I just mean that I thought certain liberal groups would have brought it up in the media more by now.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 29 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 29 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 29 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cons:
cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>

Damn, that was vicious. Heh, I 'm surprised this hasn't come up more often.
</div>

Personally, I really don't care that he did that. To me, that's between him, his wife, and that broad. It won't change my opinion of him, unless he is throwing someone else under the bus for infidelity. In my lifetime, I have watched Congressmen and one President get caught cheating on their spouses. Both liberals and conservatives, multiple times.
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Yeah that wouldn't affect my vote or anything, I just mean that I thought certain liberal groups would have brought it up in the media more by now.
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Well it would probably backfire on them, since it's a private matter.

They also have no reason to, since they have Barack Obama running.

I mean it's not like Al Gore is running again and he needs to release some dirty information in order to win.

 

Ok, well here is the summation of points:

<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">Obama:
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><u>Pros:
</u><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">- </span></span>Rock Star // Popular abroad
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">- </span></span>Speaks well //Great public speaker and orator - can inspire the masses // good speaker
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">- </span></span>Ronald Reagan/JFK type charisma
- health care
- cutting taxes for the middle class
- commitment to end the war
- ability to get people involved in whats going on in the country/world
- socially liberal
- young and motivated // young // You can relate to him because of his youth
- is not George Bush
- Recognizes some of the problems facing America
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><u>
Cons:</u>
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">- </span></span>Obama doesnt know what he stands for until he reads the breifing<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">
- </span></span>Inconsistent stances
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">- </span></span>No substantive public policy
- a little too far left
- not much of a track record
- not strong enough on illegal immigration
- Too young and in-experienced; no real government experience // inexperience
- Has great "concepts" but hasn't laid out how he will accomplish the goals
- Extremely left and the thought of him, Pelosi and Reid running the show is scary
- Yes the health care system is messed up, but universal health care is NOT the answer
- His philosophy on raising the corporate gains tax will hurt nobody but the average consumer
- Judicial philosophy leans towards justices who want to be policy makers from the bench
- Wouldn't trust him in a national crisis
- Not hard enough on immigration
- Anti-Drill


<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">McCain:</span> <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><u>
Pros:
</u>- </span>Liberal Republican
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">- </span>Fought in a war // Served in the military; extensive foreign policy experience
- Maverick, does what he thinks is right
- doesn't always follow the party
- willingness to cut spending and eliminate earmarks
- experienced and well respected among fellow leaders // Very experienced in the political arena //experience
- is not George Bush
- Doesn't side with a party just to side with a party
- Proven history of working with Democrats and Republicans
- Judicial philosophy is "spot on"
- Energy Policy: Drill, Drill, Drill.
- His anger isn't that big of a deal.
<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">
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Cons:</u></span>
- Inconsistent stances
- Old // Age
- committed to waste more time and money in Iraq
- permanently cutting taxes for mostly the richest people in the US
- has ties with the religious right
- spent too many years in Washington to be motivated enough to make a difference
- too much of a temper for a position with so much power
- Horrible public speaker
- Not conservative enough
- cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment // wow he is cold

oh and thanks for the input everyone, especially Thrilla and Hunter.