What are your beliefs on religion, god?

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  1. TripTango

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    This is what you never seem to want to accept -- science is fine with uncertainty. Science LOVES uncertainty! True science -- GOOD science -- would never invent a constant, unchangeable story just to try and explain away the unknown, no matter how comforting that story may be.
     
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    disagree. any question reduces to a scientific one if stated specifically enough. questions are only unscientific when they are vague.
     
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    Okay, so wouldn't it be "What you love" to accept the possibility that there is a God? I mean if you believe that Science loves uncertainty, then believing in God would apply yes?
     
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    Oh? What's the best rock song of all time, scientifically speaking?
     
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    define best
     
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    Like matter always existed without empirical evidence that supports this theory? Or maybe that Nothingness cannot exist? Or maybe nothingness can't somehow produce something like mass?
     
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    The primary appeal of religion is that it has (or CLAIMS to have) answers for all of these questions! What happened at the beginning of the universe? God! What happens after we die? God! Why do people suffer? God! Ok no, not that one... ;) But you see my point? Religion is attractive precisely BECAUSE it seems to eliminate uncertainties.
     
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    EXACTLY.
     
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    Here is something I just popped up via google.

    http://www.inplainsite.org/html/bible_historical_evidence.html

     
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    what?
     
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    I happen to believe in the Big Bang theory: Yep, God spoke and BANG! it came into existence!
     
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    Okay, but you are just talking about Religion yes? A true Scientist could accept the probability of a God existing, taking account of religious documentation as direction. Accounting that if there is a creator; that this creator would want to communicate with his creation yes? Maybe Christians got it wrong, or Buddhist, etc. Maybe Science can find the closest to this truth? Whatever the case; ruling it out completely is pretty laughable for anyone that embraces science if you ask me.

    Edit: what form of language is black and white?
     
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    What don't you understand?
     
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    yes exactly. your question illustrates my point. it is only not a scientific question because the term 'best' is intentionally vague/subjective. if you define what you mean with any precision it becomes a scientific question.

    this is equally true for any aesthetic or moral question.
     
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    are you disputing that questions about the origin of the universe are scientific?
     
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    I am simply applying that creation can be a possibility if you can accept the possibility that mass can somehow just exist (eternity) or that if there was a beginning; then something that isn't confined by matter, space and time could create the universe.
     
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    cool, but i don't see the connection to what i was talking about.
     
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    What time is it. Really. What time is it.
     
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    TL;DR. I'm simply asking for a single example of a Biblical reference that CLEARLY couldn't have been known by its likely authors at the time if its writing. Don't give me no wall of text blog posts!
     
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    hopefully anyone here can see that even if the bible is historically reliable, a leap like this isn't justified. if it is everyone should check out the historicity of the illiad and start believing in Zeus.
     

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