What are your beliefs on religion, god?

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  1. magnifier661

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    Not like what you would consider them to be. I dont believe god would need to use a spaceship, but maybe the angels do.
     
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    again, what you are doing here is arguing that god isn't necessary to explain the bible. i don't see how that helps your case.
     
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    Huh? Your eagerness to avoid the true meaning of what im saying is blinding you. Where did it say that God isnt necessary to explain the bible?

    If i described an angel flying in a spacecraft, that has nothing to do with God needing one. God created man, just as he did the angels. Theses angels may not be much different then us, and are still bound by the laws of this universe. Maybe they aren't. But you ruling out christianity because you say science disproves God, yet there are still prominent scientists holding positions in the field of science is quite the contradiction.
     
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    When you said angels = aliens.
     
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    yes, science is just a giant conspiracy against theism.
     
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    Well aren't they? I think you are talking about the little green men or something like that? Im talking about they are not from this world. They ascend which equals flying. They may have flown without the need for a space craft, they may have. But it doesn't change the fact that the person that only sees birds fly, describe an angel as a bird.
     
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    No its not a conspiracy. I think true science wouldn't rule creation out like you are. This is why i said that trip had you at the ropes when you said its foolish for science to not discount christianity or theism for that matter. You are blinded by your need for God to not exist. This is why i doubt you hold any position in science. Most your answers are textbook responses from the atheists. Not all atheists are scientist, and not all christians are either.

    Science adopts all forms of beliefs. It should hold no prejudice to any belief. Ut the scientific community are mainly atheist like you mentioned. They definitely don't want science to prove God exists. But if there was evidence without a shadow of doubt, that ratio changes drastically.
     
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    I see how this would apply to you.
     
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    if angels ride in spaceships mags, where do they live?
     
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    I don't know. What do you think?
     
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    Explain quantum physics to a farmer in africa. Lets see how many would understand.

    Heck explain quantum physics to anyone in here and you'd probably lose most in this thread
     
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    Yet you would assume that the writers of the bible had the knowledge to explain a God that even defies current laws of science.
     
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    must be outer space, or they wouldnt need spaceships, right?

    im all about the alien overlord thing mags, although that kinda kills heaven for all the religious types
     
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    Like ive said before, i will not rule anything out. You may assume that i am, but i am just questioning the evidence currently. And anyone that doesn't question it, is no different than the religious fanatics they oppose.

    Evolution as what we know today could be dead wrong. It also could be right on the money. Anyone that doesn't question it, isn't thinking rationally.
     
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    the only way science instills anything is through evidence. "instill a godless universe" implies science is a conspiracy to promote false evidence.


    actually it seems like you are responding to what you would expect a textbook atheist to say and believe and not even reading my posts.

    1. I don't 'rule out' an intelligent creator
    2. I did not say it's foolish for science to not discount Christianity or theism
    3. I would greatly prefer it if god existed and there was an afterlife of some kind



    Conspiracy!!!!!!!#^@&^*!!!!
     
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    Conspiracy? You are aware that there is truth to the scientific community wanting to disprove creation right? But what I find uplifting is that there are people in science that go against the law of averages and question current science. There is no conspiracy from truth.

    I mean you even tossed out that there are so many more in the field if science that don't believe in God; being interpreted as well most logical thinking men don't agree that god exists. Yet you say that the millions of people that believe in Christ should be ruled out because it holds no relevance to truth.
     
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    Conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    No, being interpreted as most scientists would agree there is no compelling evidence that god exists

    gotta be careful there with those numbers arguments. in another 50 years or so you might have to convert to islam.
     
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    Or the ratio in the scientific community leans more towards Theism.
     
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    I don't know there's any conspiracy, but there sure is an attitude and agenda among scientists.

    Systematically, science has directly addressed questions that religion had already answered.

    In the beginning, nature created the heavens and the earth.

    Apocalypse will indeed be fire and brimstone when the big asteroid hits (not if, but when! A call to action).

    Man is indeed formed of (star) dust.

    No need to be defensive about it if you believe in science. If you seek Truth, admit the agenda and move on.

    Google for "Hawking god" and see that he doesn't hide anything.
     

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