What do you guys think about Montgomery?

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  1. philsmith75

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    Monty's offense is there, the execution is lacking.

    One play in the Pistons game, its tight in the 2nd qtr, the Warriors call a timeout and run a play where the ball is passed after Cheaney cuts to the corner for his usual jumper and he passes it right to Foyle under the bucket uncontested, Foyle goes up for the dunk and.... he misses.

    That was a play against probably the best interior defense in the league (okay maybe its San Antonio) and the W's got an uncontested dunk.

    That's all Monty.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Philsmith said it better than I did. Plays are run to give a few players high % looks at the basket depending on how the defending team reacts. Foyle blowing a wide open dunk is just unacceptable. Pro ball players aren't supposed to miss those. We know Musselman would never go to Foyle, but part of good teamwork is that everybody gets touches. It makes the other team's defense work that much harder because Foyle becomes a potential scorer. 10 points a game is all we're asking from him. But somehow that seems like quite a task for him to accomplish.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">10 points a game is all we're asking from him. But somehow that seems like quite a task for him to accomplish.</div>

    Dunleavy needs 16 points tonight just to get to 10.0. If Foyle got to 10 pts he's be a major bargain considering his shot blocking and decent rebounding numbers.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy needs 16 points tonight just to get to 10.0. If Foyle got to 10 pts he's be a major bargain considering his shot blocking and decent rebounding numbers.</div>
    Speaking of Dunleavy, I'm really liking his improvement from the foul line and his shot selection. 50% shooting from the field and 87% free throw shooting in the last 5 games with 3 or 4 free throw attempts per game. Dunleavy and Foyle both need to be reliable on offense or the team game will be harder to sell. Guys like Murphy, Fisher, Richardson, and Baron Davis might be hesistant to pass a certain way if they don't believe in people's skills. I think out of the entire starting 5 Foyle and Dunleavy will get the most clean looks. So they have to score. Murphy might get cleaner looks as an outside shooter because he's a matchup where very few big men want to come out to contest him, but Dunleavy might have defenders that will leave him to come help out on Jrich or Bdiddy and Foyle might be open because not many teams think of him as an offensive player. Clearly, he's not. How many times have you seen a 6'10 pro ball player f-up a dunk?
     
  5. xplicitjc

    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    during that 20-second timeout with under a minute to go tonight and 2 on the shot clock, i said aloud to my pops "monty NEEDS to cook up a good play here." sure enough, a beautiful oop to baron...how many teams can design an inbound alleyoop to their point guard?? crazy. anyway, much props to montgomery, he did me proud!!
     
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    I can't comment too much about Mike Montgomery, because I have yet to see any games this year. But looking at the stats I guess I can try to get at least the slightest grasp on the team and Mike Montgomery. You guys here help me a lot, in being able to follow the Warriors, thanks a lot for that! But this stat seemed true last year and this year too, in that the team's turnovers have gone down. Before it wasn't unlikely(oy double negative [​IMG] ) to see the Warriors kill themselves with many stupid turnovers. But this year the average amount of turnovers per game is 14, which is about 2 less than they force against their opponents. This aspect of the game has cleaned up a lot since Montgomery has come to coach here, as this stat was similar to last years numbers as well.

    One of the things that somehow has become worse since Montgomery has come, is the rebounds. I don't know why this is. Maybe the loss of Dampier or something. But the Warriors used to be a very good rebounding team. Maybe they had many opportunities to get rebounds, because, well, maybe they didn't have the best shooters. But nonetheless the Warriors the last two years have been hurt on the boards, each year averaging less boards per game than the opponent. This year it seems quite bad as the Warriors are averaging 4 less rebounds than the opponent. I personally think that the Warriors have many tall players on the team, so I can't really understand why this is. Maybe it's a coaching thing, maybe not, but just a trend that I see, and maybe a concern with how the Warriors play and the coach's game plan. Something maybe the team could look into more.

    And while the turnovers might not be hurting the team, the amount of three point shots that the team does take, might be hurting this team, just as badly. Again, I haven't seen any games this year, living in Latvia, but maybe this is a concern.

    Two good things that I like so far, is that the Warriors have taken more FT's than their opponents thus far through the season. I like that stat. Also there seems to be improved defense, at least from what I hear or read.

    From last year, to add maybe actual opinions to this post, I thought there were several times where he either didn't know his roster so well or just failed to use the best lineups, especially in important situations of the game. I can't judge this for this year, but this was one of the things that bugged me about Mike last year. Hopefully it has improved [​IMG]. And maybe I would like to see him get more out of his players, mostly I mean with the bench players. I would really like to see Zarko, Biedrins, Diogu, and maybe someone else to start producing off the bench more often, instead of just Fisher, since Pietrus is gone until, I don't know...

    Ok, that's all...hehe
     

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