What do you think is the main problem?

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What is the main contributing factor to the Blazers' poor record?

  1. Poorly assembled roster/general talent level of the team

    50.0%
  2. Chauncey

    8.6%
  3. The Bench

    5.2%
  4. The backcourt pairing of Anfernee with Dame

    15.5%
  5. Lack of effort from players

    1.7%
  6. Team hasn't been together long enough

    1.7%
  7. Too many injuries

    5.2%
  8. Nurk

    5.2%
  9. The team defers to Dame too much

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Other (specify)

    6.9%
  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    When people say we don't have draft capital they are wrong. If we had a deal in place that sent out Ant and others, along with three future firsts and three pick swaps... we could have that in a matter of minutes. Usually it only takes cash to remove protections from a pick but a second rounder has been the highest I've seen it take... the only time I've seen more given is when the protection is altered in a way that pushes the pick back not when it is giving the pick immediately.

    So if we wanted to we could send a pick swap 2024, FRP 2025, swap 2026, FRP 2027, swap 2028 and FRP 2029. If the move makes this team a contender we have a ton of draft capital at our disposal.
     
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  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Not enough size and too many mediocre players. Need a consolidation trade.
     
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    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know for sure if Chicago has to approve for us to remove the protection or if we can do it unilaterally?
     
  4. Nhawz

    Nhawz Lickety Brindle

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    It’s the roster. Cronin has made it clear this roster is a work in progress. We did a major retool during the off-season, and haven’t done fine tuning. We started out hot which skewed a lot of your perceptions of our current roster.
     
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    42N8Bounce 0.9 Bye Bye 61

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    I selected Billups, but lack of effort by the players was a close second to me. I think those two choices are closely tied together.

    Totally agree that the effort early in the season has dropped. I went to the Philadelphia game this week, and the first half was littered with lazy passes, and slow close outs by the Blazers. When the Blazers made the run in the 4th, we finally started seeing Nurk get up in the face of Embiid. There was pressure in the backcourt. Quicker close outs on 3s.

    Why can’t the Blazers play with that effort in the first half? If your answer is that you have to conserve your energy for the full game, the teams that are beating the Blazers don’t seem to have that problem…
     
  7. bemac

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    The guards don't work....again. Trade for Collins and play him at PF, let Nurk develop his 3, move Grant to the three and ride the year out with Sharpe at SG. Rotate Winslow in for Nurk heavily when healthy.
     
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    Yeah, we all know for sure that as soon as trade conditions are agreed upon and ratified by the players' physicals, any changes to those trade conditions have to be agreed upon by any parties impacted by those conditions. What we also know is that conditions have been lifted from picks that make them guaranteed for cash most of the time it has happened.
     
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    That would have to be a three team deal because I very seriously doubt that the Hawks want a small, score first guard at 22M with Trae making 37M but maybe they want him for a rotation with Trae and Dejounte. I just don't think that would be a wise trade for Atlanta to make without another team involved.
     
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    Then after we win 35 games, what do we do next?
     
  11. bemac

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    We wait...I don't think there's a viable trade to make this a championship team. The best path forward is to make incremental improvements until Sharpe becomes. Yep, it's a gamble, but I think it's the best bet. Accelerating his progression by giving him serious minutes is the way to go.
     
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    The fact is, if that trade is available this coaching staff has already shown that they will start Josh over Shae. So you'd be looking at Dame, Josh, JG, Collins and Nurk with GP2, Nas, Justise (all if healthy) and Shae coming off the bench. I would think that Shae would sub in for Nurk and the lineup would be Dame, Shae, Josh, JG and Collins at first sub. I think Collins would play a lot of minutes as a small ball 5. I think that team wins just over 41 games and is in the play-in. It's not my ideal trade or if we did make it, I'd want more moves with it. I've already said that Ant shouldn't be appealing to the Hawks, so I doubt this deal will be anything for you to worry about.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Objection!

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    I can't say for certain but I'd imagine that Portland could NOT remove protections without Chicago's approval

    for example, say Chicago and Portland were competing to assemble the best trade package for Siakam, and the Raptors main priority, after salary matching, was the value of the future picks offered. Portland's heavy disadvantage, and conversely Chicago's biggest advantage, would be the fact that Portland has no unencumbered 1st round picks to offer. Chicago would not destroy that advantage by letting Portland off of Olshey's idiotic hook. In fact, owning Portland's encumbered first thru 2028 (all for Nance...geeeeezuz) might be an asset Toronto would like
     
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    Because they get called for ticky tack fouls. Every time our front court gets in foul trouble early on we have to dial back our defense and end up loosing the game.
     
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    I'm not against waiting, but obviously there are people here who are. We turned over a large portion of the roster in the last 365 days and a lot of people already want to blow it up.

    I think the most likely outcome of your strategy is people go from blame CJ, to blaming Ant, to blaming Sharpe. The backup QB is everyones favorite, until they get paid and moved to the starting lineup, then people love to turn on them.
     
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    Agreed on the first part regarding who would start.

    Regarding the second part, I'm certainly not going to worry about it. Never was.
     
  18. blazerkor

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    Yeah, you can come up with that one obscure scenario that if Portland and Chicago wanted the same player and the team with that player wanted a package of picks Chicago wouldn't want to let us free up our future picks. The biggest problem with that though is that Chicago would have to guarantee their pick this year to Orlando and if we're being so fucking obscure maybe Orlando doesn't want to free up Chicago's future draft pick for some obscure reason.

    If we wanted to, we could guarantee that pick unless a very very unlikely scenario was going on. In other words in all likelihood we could have a lot of draft capital if we wanted to.
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Everybody here is wrong and this woman/man is correct. Close the thread.
     
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