What if I told you that there is no "heaven" for "righteous souls"

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    Or Denny, you experienced an encounter with relatives that have already passed, but you dont remember it hahaha
     
  2. magnifier661

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    But that conflicts with your theory about your brain and the organic chemical responses are a part of your consciousness? If you are able to function and walk around, it takes function from many parts of your brain.

    Not remembering is not proof of consciousness. Do you remember when you were born? You were conscious then?
     
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    Shit! I must have drawn the wrong one! It sure seemed like hell.
     
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    Wanna know the irony?

    Since these atheist believes after we die everything goes black, then this mortal life is all we have.

    So let's say one commits a crime and receives "life without parol". That would be the same as one going to hell and burn for eternity. I mean if you don't believe in afterlife, then life in prison is exactly the same.

    Now here's the kicker... They bitch and moan about "how could God create hell" yet will have no problem with man sending people to hell.

    Can we say "contradiction"?
     
  5. MarAzul

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    I think I got the picture quite some time back. Hell is what you get when you haven't got your shit right. No wait required.
     
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    Every account I've read of someone that had actually died and then been resuscitated basically says the same thing. No lights, pearly gates, flashbacks, etc. just nothingness and/or blackness.
     
  7. MARIS61

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    [video=youtube;5FHA1HqJoYg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FHA1HqJoYg[/video]
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The link doesn't work for me.

    I'm sure I got the jest of it though.

    "Blah blah blah something to support no God"

    How close am I?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Everyone you read. How selective!

    http://www.iands.org/nde-stories/17-nde-accounts-from-beyond-the-light.html

    Here are some you can read that explain the light. So now what?
     
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    Here are many more links for you to read BMJ. So at least you can say "I've read some that say I've seen the light and others say blackness"

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104397005

    And think about this my friends... How could one even know they see blackness if they are conscious? Seems a little contradictory huh?

    I mean if you are dead and all that's left is black, then you wouldn't see shit right? At least Denny admits that he didn't even know the last 30 minutes of the event.

    Do we remember the events when we sleep? It's been observed our mind dreams more than 3-4 times a night. What memories you have of that? Your conscious is active and you can't remember....
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Obviously. If your brain isn't getting blood and oxygen, it's not going to function.

    As for the mumbo jumbo...

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_hysteria
     
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    Not even in the ballpark. :tsktsk: Just the opposite, in fact.

    You're so cynical, no wonder you're religious. :sigh:

    Big hit back in the day.



    Rock and Roll Heaven

    If you believe in forever
    Then life is just a one-night stand
    If there's a rock n' roll heaven
    Well you know they've got a hell of a band, band, band Jimmy

    Gave us rainbows and Janis
    Took a piece of our hearts and Otis

    Brought us all to the dock of a bay
    Sing a song to light my fire, remember Jim
    That way, they've all found another place, another place to play

    If you believe in forever
    Then life is just a one-night stand
    If there's a rock n' roll heaven
    Well you know they've got a hell of a band, band, band Jimmy

    Remember bad bad Leroy Brown, hey Jimmy
    Touched us with that song
    Time won't change a friend we came to know and Bobby

    Gave us Mack the Knife
    Well look out, he's back in town
    They'll all be there together
    When they meet in one big show

    If you believe in forever
    Then life is just a one-night stand
    If there's a rock n' roll heaven
    Well you know they've got a hell of a band, band, band Jimmy

    There's a spotlight waiting
    No matter who you are 'cuz everybody's got a song to sing
    Everyone's a star
    (Everybody's got to be a star)

    If you believe in forever
    Then life is just a one-night stand
    If there's a rock n' roll heaven
    Well you know they've got a hell of a band, band, band Jimmy

    Songwriters
    STEVENSON, JOHNNY / O'DAY, ALAN

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    Nah Maris, it's just that you're so cynical and your past posts usually resemble what I just posted
     
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    How/why is that a contradiction?
     
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    Easy... An Atheist believes that when you die, everything turns black. Your conscious is gone, dead, zero. To an atheist, your time on Earth is your conscious eternity. So whatever time you have on Earth is all the time you have.

    So if you are sent to prison for life, that is a punishment of torment (prison ain't fun right?) for the rest of your life.

    So the moment a "Atheist" throws out some bullshit "How can God be so cruel to form hell?", Yet these same people will support prison systems is quite contradictory.
     
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    They're hardly contradictory or hypocritical of a take, though.

    One is a man made device used to both protect the populace and punish an offender. The other is theoretically made by an all knowing all powerful creator. Man built prisons and laws in response to a problem or problems. Out of necessity. The thought of god being cruel could be connected to him creating us in a way where people can end up burning for eternity, unnecessarily.
     
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    I dont want to be rude, but do I understand you correctly? You blame God for the choices you are allowed to make due to being given free will?


    One could easily make the argument that Hell is no more of a danger than gravity. You can choose to step off a cliff, does that make God the bad guy?
     
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    Well, I don't believe, so no, I don't blame god.
     
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    that does not match up with your earlier statement QT "The thought of god being cruel could be connected to him creating us in a way where people can end up burning for eternity, unnecessarily."

    You seem to blame God for giving man free will...or do I not understand something?
     
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    This comment is a total double standard.

    So you are saying "it's okay for man to punish, but not God?"
     

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