Politics What if it turns out the other side was right?

I use to love their music way way back in the day. Ever heard "Tell Laura I Love Her"?

 

cleaned up my posts. Let's see if you comply.

 

I disagree. He isn't good for this country but you can't blame division on one person. The people have to be creating the division and ever since he became president, one side started in and then the other side jumps in and gets defensive and it goes from there. People could be just fine if they choose to be, maybe focus their energy on something else other then getting riled up over the guy in office. You can't blame one person regardless of how dumb they are acting or have acted. Others need to take responsibility too.

 

Yes, but it's been a long time.

I've been listening to groups like Christopher Cross and Chicago lately.

 

If I started it, why were two another posters able to refrain from thinking I was 'master baiting' and have a conversation with me.
I did zero baiting, and zero personal attacks with my first post.

 

I most certainly am blaming him for this level of division. Absolutely, 100%. Agree to disagree.

 

After he told me to shut up.
Therefore I didn't start it so don't say I started it.
I'm not pretending I'm innocent. But I did not start it.
Edit your post.

 

If you're gonna call out nonsense then you should call out yourself for this post...

 

While I don't believe Obama divided the country. He most certainly did force people out of their comfort zones.
Which itself can be took as division as people fear change.

My issue with Trump is he's doing nothing to fix the issues he's created with his twitter account. While other presidents imo have tried to at least listen. Trump does none of this.
He's a classic case of 'don't hit send'.
But twitter is the easiest way to rally the sheep of your party to vote for you. As it seems like everyone but myself has a twitter account.

 

You know last time Joe had to apologize publicly to me for making a mistake like this.

For knowing people irl who think that way?

 

Is that all you said throughout those 4 sentences?

 

But youre calling out other people for being divisive

C'mon man.

 

Do you not believe one side attacking the other further pushes positive conversations to the back burner?

 

So all it takes for you to abandon your hatred of divisiveness is one insult?

 

Yes, divisive language needs to be done away with regardless of where it comes from.
As it does nothing but further the divide.

I didn't abandon it.
But if someone insults me while failing to use the forum rules of attacking the post not the poster.
I'm going to find a more intelligent way to respond to the insult while attempting to toe the line.

 

i agree with the "it takes two sides for escalation". i also agree that the president didn't invent these divisions. i would however like suggest that many of the older posters on here were alive and remember the lee atwater interview where he discusses the political policy/tactic of the republican party in the middle 80's using this selfsame tactic to incite racism to get out the vote and to direct that vote to republican candidates. i believe trump proscribes to the tactic knowingly and purposefully. he was alive then and has utilized them during his campaign rallies and even his dismissals of the charlottesville riot. yes it took two sides for there to be a conflict. speaking out against the racist night marchers and their chanting and symbol isms was a a righteous decision on the part of the protesters of the march IMHO. the presidents response not so much.
i know the "Nation" is a left leaning publication, try to not even read the rhetoric, or at least ignore it. the bullet points of atwater's interview are in the first video short at the top of the page. the entire recording is available for context in the middle. please give it a listen, and perhaps understand the problem of ignoring the words of present republican's in the context of their party's past tactics from the not so distant past.
https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/