Offensive rebound is really related to his foul trouble, he can't be as aggressive going after OR after picking up early fouls to avoid more fouls. and also when he's playing outside, it's hard to run in to get position, but once he's in foul trouble, he doesn't even bother go in at all.
A good role player has the ability to score without having plays run through him. Yi is not the star of this team. Plays should not be run through him. As a role player he needs to find a way to score without having plays run through him.
Like 3-4 more ppg per game? or more consistent? I am not saying there should be plays for him every other possession. 3 or 4 set plays for him shouldn't be too much for him. especially for player developing purposes.
His average is fine. 10.6 ppg is good for a 3rd or 4th option when your top two options are averaging nearly 50 ppg. I'm definitely looking for more consistency from him, though. Carter and Harris can't win a game singlehandedly. They need help. Consistent help. They need the role players to show that they can be depended on to hit the open shot after a drive and kick out. Stuff like that. The more consistent Yi will be, the more shots he'll get because his teammates will trust him more.
why don't Yi get the oppotunity to do some Isolations in the post anyways? They give lopez oppotunities to have him score in the low post, and he's a rookie. But there is no plays run for Yi? and people expect him to be more consistent.
Yi has no post game, mate. Lopez knows what to do with the ball in the post. Yi is a perimeter player. Carter and Harris own the perimeter isolations. Plus, Yi isn't a good enough dribbler to get past his man in an iso facing the basket.
well if you just want him to knock down open jumpers more, that's more reasonable. But how open he gets depends largely on his defender since the dribble drive offense doesn't involve too much movement if you are just there to stretch the floor.
There's a reason why he doesn't get the ball in the post: he isn't strong enough to back down other players, he doesn't have a hook shot to go if he can't, he doesn't have the spin move to spin off his defender. If he gets the ball in the post he'll either get blocked, lose the ball or take a turnaround fadeaway 90% of the time.
[video=youtube;eOzjo27nFMc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOzjo27nFMc[/video] of course one play doesn't say much, but saying Yi has no post game is ridiculous.
Post play is not all about strength. if you watch bosh or KG, they don't just back their man down, they use their quickness, pumpfakes, one dribble to the basket. you said yourself Yi is quick enough to get by his defenders. not all post players need to back his man deep and do a hook shot, when did you see KG or bosh do a hook shot?
That's why I said that he doesn't have the spin move to get past his defender with his back to him either. Basically, what I mean is that 1 out of 10 times he'll find the basket, but it's useless forcing him into a situation in which he isn't experienced or comfortable. Better to have him on the perimeter, where he has had some great games. EDIT: Also, please don't compare Yi Jianlian to Chris Bosh and Kevin Garnett.
He did a spin move on williams pretty well. and who compared Yi jianlian to KG or bosh? just because they were mentioned doesn't mean they were compared, I don't know how that could create such confusion. I am simply saying finesse post game is a variation to the power post game.
My bad then, I misunderstood what you were saying. As I said, 1 out of 10 times he'll work something out. But do you really think he can do that spin move over and over and get good results? I don't.
Of course not. He can also face up there, pumpfake to drive past his defender or just shoot the 10-15 foot jumper. spin around fade away is also an option. For a 7 footer, if he drives from outside the 3 pointline, he needs to take 2-3 dribbles, he will have a way harder time to do that than if he's closer to the basket, it would take him one dribble and he's underneath the basket.
@dumpy, my only arguement against the lack of offensive rebounds is that YI is already sitting behind the 3, so the odds of the ball reaching him off a miss are very low IMO and even when he runs in, the ball can bounce a completely different way than where YI is going or worse gets called for over the back... I am one of those who claimed that YI isnt getting touches but i guess i should clarify that he is not being used in the paint more to fully enable his advantage of being 7ft. Yi has a post game despite contrary belief, it's nothing fancy more or less a bit ugly but he has one.... when Frank is having YI staying in 3pt land, how in the world can he effectively use his height to his advantage. he shoots and that's it, Yi can do much more but for some reason he's staying behind. if he can mix it up, have Yi start low and then stretch, here we have our X factor. i blame this on the coach because so far it does look to me its by design that Yi stays out far. As for the comparison to Krstic, well he was the man(been watching the Nets for 9 years maybe) but look who was he pg??? an assist machine in Jason Kidd. Yi's? Devin the one man Harris show... now i'm not hating on Harris by any means and i understand the two styles of play, i luv Harris for who he is and being a game breaker but no one can tell me he's not a ball hogger at the very least. He at many times does not pass for the easy score and takes it upon himself to draw the foul. but i guess what i'm saying is with both Harris and VC scoring crazy how much "production" do we expect from Yi? the whole team in general needs to contribute including from Lopez but i don't see our coach getting him into the offensive game. not saying i'm happy with his performance of late but i'm not for this whole benchin him movement.... based off his limited opportunities i can't say he's horrible.
This is all speculative. It does no good to say that Yi would be more productive and consistent if he was used differently. He has a certain role, and it is his job to perform it as well as he can. The team obviously believes that he can do an adequate job with what they've asked. What would you think of a mediocre employee who justified his poor performance at the packing plant by saying that he should have more responsibility, or would be more effective on a different assemply line where there are no openings? You do what you are asked to do. Incidentally, it is somewhat irrelevant to compare Devin to Kidd. Vince Carter serves as PG on half the sets, and he does a pretty good job at setting up his teammates.
