What if we trade nobody?

I'd like to see the roster get balanced out, but if we have to take a massive discount in order to move Brogdon (or Thybulle/Ant/Sharpe/Scoot), I'd rather wait. If we can get a great value for any of the guards, then I'm ok moving any of them.

 

You would be ok with the idea of trading Sharp? He probably has the most value on the team. Speed up the rebuilding process and balance out the roster.

 

I don't buy that at all

 

I love how people can always find a way to excuse this organization doing absolutely nothing why talking down upon others for having any expectations whatsoever.

This organization trades Hart for a pick that that they drafted with when they were "trying to win", can't effectively trade the 3rd overall pick when they're "trying to win", and now might keep a veteran who's in the way of playing time for their young core who they're rebuilding around? That's the definition of directionless and operating without a plan.

How are the Blazers going to play Scoot, Sharpe, and Simons enough minutes with Brogdon in the mix and Thybulle/Grant at SF? Brogdan gets in the way.

You don't have to have veteran mentors in the way of your young players. Someone mentioned Earl Watson for Dame - That's a perfect example. Also, Chauncey's supposed to be that mentor. I also think people overrate what a couple months of "veteran mentorship" brings, wordlessly when there's other people and coaches who can provide the same guidance.

Brogdons value is also the highest its going to be and he's healthy. Portland needs to accumulate assets to maximize a window of contention that's far down the line. They just sat around stuck in the middle for a decade and hanging onto Brogdon is the type of move that trends more towards being stuck in the middle instead of contending down the line.

This is the simplest of decisions, and I fully expect Cronin to make the wrong one.

 

Who said he would gain value? Why you twisting things up? You said he would massively diminish his value. Then you said he was worth a first round pick as 6th man and worth the same now. I said he will be worth about the same 6months from now and disagree of your opinion about massively diminishing. None of that means I said he would increase value.

 

Nothing in there says he WILL. It all says might. Which is as much conjecture as saying he will massively diminish. There is a difference there.

 

lol, and you complain about others arguing semantics. good day

 

Good day to you too! If Nate had asked how I think he might gain value, I would have answered accordingly. But i'm not sure if he will gain value. I'm not being definitive like some. But I also highly doubt his value will massively diminish. "Might gain value" could be going from one middle first two a middle first and two seconds, or many other things as well. I think he is playing better now than he was at the beginning of the season. To me that provides the possibility of increased value. But, again. I'm not sure. I didn't say he would massively increase his value. Would you like to pick one word out and focus on that again or address any of the many many reasons/opinions I have made for not wanting to trade him unless its a great return? Or would you like to continue playing the semantics game?

 

Look. Some of us clearly disagree with some others regarding the projected valuation of Brogdon and his current value to the team. Its okay. Each side has made points I would consider valid. I happen to lean on one side with some people, and others like yourself tend to lean the other way. Why not let it play out and see where it lands vs going round and round and round on it? Agree to disagree? It really isn't a big deal. Some people have said they will be pissed over and over though if their wants don't come to fruition, making it a big deal. That's where they don't understand that negative vibe and continual bitching gets to some others who then start pushing back. Okay. Express your unhappiness and move on. No need to post in every thread every day about the angst. I don't want to ignore some of those people, becuase4 they tend to bring alot of other things to the table. Just move on. Its not the end of the world.

Supposed to be a decent day today. Here is hoping we play a good game tonight!

 

That's offensive!! I reported this post!!!

 

If we don't trade anybody I'll assume it's because Sharpe's injury is season-ending, because that's the only way it vaguely makes sense.

 

If we got more value in retrun, I wouldn't think twice about trading Sharpe. I still think there's a real chance he's never an all-star, so he would not even be close to untradable for me.

 

I would hope that's not the main reason a trade isn't made. In my opinion, no significant moves made this year should be made with regard to balancing out this roster in the short term.

 

Here's a game in which all the guards played in a win over Brooklyn.

This was an overtime game. 134 - 127.

 

Man, if you're going to quote me, at least get it right. Don't put words in my mouth. I said if we let them basically depreciate down to nothing, that massively diminishes the return we got for Dame.

I said he was worth a first last summer, he is presumably worth a first right now, but we have no idea what his value will be in six months. He could suffer a massive injury. But value doesn't tend to go up as players age and he's in his early 30s.

So what's the point of waiting if his value is arguably as high as it's ever going to be? I don't think mentoring is enough of a counter to potentially losing out on assets.

 

That's a 7 man rotation.

Missing Ayton. Missing Thybulle. Walker is in the rotation now.

 

It seems there are a few groups forming:
- those that think Portland should keep brogdon through the deadline because he’s good for the team and for the young guys.
- those that think Portland should keep Brogdon through the deadline if commensurate value isn’t available for Brogdon at the deadline, despite there being an opportunity cost in terms of scoot’s development.
- those that think Portland should trade brogdon now, no matter what, even if it means only getting back seconds and filler, or a late 2024 first—which is only so useful, because scoot needs to play 8-10m more minutes per game for the rest of the season, and that can’t happen with Brogdon here.

I’m almost positive the first two groups aren’t the same, yet it seems folks are lumping them together.

 

Who has said "no matter what?"