What if we trade nobody?

not trading is better than liquidating Brog or Jerami for a pick in the 20s.

 

Samesies.

 

Yeah, I'd be okay with it, if that's what it took to get a pick.

Of course, we'll have to hope he doesn't get injured after the deadline...

 

I certainly wouldn't deal Jerami for a pick in the 20s. But we don't really need to trade him, IMO.

I'm not sure how much better of a pick you'll ever get out of Brogdon. 15 maybe?

 

* Hart brought a 23rd pick

* CJ was traded for Hart and a 2025 first...that was traded for Grant....meaning Grant was traded for a 2025 top-4 protected 1st from Milwaukee that is likely to be in the 20's

* Blazers traded a lottery-protected 1st for Nance but that was a stupid fucking trade

* Powell was essentially traded for a 2nd

* Portland traded what became a 19th pick for Afflalo

I'm not sure what the floor is for Brogdon in 1st round picks but expecting a pick in the 15-20 range may not be realistic either now or even less likely in the summer

 

Yeah, agreed. I'm trying to think of a scenario in which it would be that high and I can't...

I feel like if a first rounder is on the table we should jump on it. Do any of the top 10 teams have a first rounder they've traded for that could maybe get into the 19 range?

Or maybe it needs to be in a package of some kind...

 

Knicks have Detroit's '24 pick (lotto protected). It keeps rolling over until '27 when the protections are down to ~#10.

It's a risk, but Id take that pick because there is a decent shot that it conveys in '26 or '27

 

Unless you want endless mediocrity, getting a pick in the 20s is fine for Brogdon.

There's zero chance Brogdon becomes anything more than a good player that takes playing time away from younger players.

The chances are low for a first round pick in the 20s being a better contributor than Brogdon, but a higher chance that player becomes better than average (though still low). My point is that the player in the 20s is an unknown quantity.

 

For Brogdon? Hell yeah I'd take that risk.

 

-OKC has a shit ton of picks.
-As was said above the Knicks have picks, yeah that Detroit one but they have theirs and Dallas's and one from Washington that get's less and less protected the following two drafts before it could turn into two seconds. They also have the Bucks 2025 pick top 5 protected.

Mostly the top 10 teams have their own pick or future firsts all of which I think would be in play for either of our two vets that I'm hoping are being shopped.

 

Grant is worth way more than Brogdon. Forwards who can defend and score like Grant are much more difficult to come by right now.

 

Since I missed this response, I said the return on the Dame trade would massively diminished if we let Brogdon depreciate down to nothing. To be clear, letting him depreciate to nothing would be holding onto him until his contract expires.

I never said his value would massively diminish. I think his value has a high chance of being lower this summer, simply because he will be older and as someone else pointed out, a team would only get one postseason out of him instead of two. But we don’t know what any offers are right now. We only know what he was worth last summer. People have guessed that the Knicks might offer a pick and filler. We haven’t heard anything concrete from any sources.

It would have to be concerning if we aren’t getting good offers though, with not many sellers right now. I don’t see why it would be better this summer.

 

my apologies for mixing your words up. I was taking the massively diminished as two fold. I assumed if the Dame trade massively diminished in value, that would be because we let Brog also massively diminish in value. I apologize for assuming that is also what you meant. I appreciate the clarification.

 

Hell no. Issac is damaged goods. Orland is only playing him 15 minutes per game this year.

I'd roll the dice on him if it were something like Robert Williams + Camara...but not for Simons.

 

I would think if there isn’t much there for Brogdon waiting till OS presents more opportunities as more teams then are willing to trade with more picks available. Also he could be part of bigger package for a player and picks.

 

A healthy Issac would be a coup for this team. That's why I said I'd offer up something to gamble for him. But not Simons.

 

This is what I believe will happen. No big trade. Maybe something minor

 

Ditto.