What if we trade nobody?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I said a week ago that the relevant facts might be the Blazers being about 5.4M under the tax line and having two TPE's of over 8M. Blazers might land a future 2nd round pick for taking on a small contract
     
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  2. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    What constitutes 'minor'?

    Would a Brogdon trade for Fournier + pick be minor or major?
     
  3. beast blazer

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    That doesn't help your cause any. Now you're dealing him for a rookie PG (why do we need another one), and a 1st round pick that would probably be in the mid to late teens or lower. That's almost like dumping him.
     
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    A 6'7" defensive specialist rookie PG, who would add length and versatility to our rebuild. If he develops well, he would be an excellent complement to Scoot and Sharpe--a much better for than Ant. And you're probably right that a single first would be too few; they could offer both a 25 and a 26.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    he'll tell you that after the deadline.
     
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    I kind of understand keeping Brogs more with this Sharpe injury or at last can maybe understand it BUT if the Blazers get a good deal and turn it down cause the front office thinks we can still contend or something, I am going to lose my BEEP cause this season is lost in terms of winning anything so embrace it and turn the reigns of this team to Scoot and let him go through the highs and lows of being a rookie BUT limit his minutes to 32 ish per game so not to wear him out. This is the other thing if after the all star break if Scoot is not starting the fanbase needs to start a petition to get Billups fired and I am not even joking about this.
     
  8. wizenheimer

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    a 2023 sixth pick + a 2025 first + a 2026 first + Issac....for Ant? a 6th year non-all-star undersized SG who is a defensive liability

    channeling the earlier version of Masai Ujiri before reality came knocking?
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Man bro… I advocate for you to be banned from posting anything about players getting injured. @SlyPokerDog fine this guy. This is fine worthy!!
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Finally someone paying attention
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Well, I initially suggested just a single first, but beasty seemed to indicate that was "dumping" Ant for nothing. As always, everyone has different valuations for our players. I personally think Orlando would love to get the premier offensive backcourt piece their team sorely lacks in exchange for two guys that barely play. Don't know what draft compensation would be required to make it a fair/balanced trade, but I think that basic framework makes a ton of sense for both teams.
     
  13. wizenheimer

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    I agree with that. I just thought that essentially 3 first round picks (Black is one) + filler for Ant was a significant overpay for Orlando
     
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    A few things could happen between now and noon: We could see a small trade that doesn't have a lot of significance i.e. Matisse and a second to a team with a TPE for a conditional first. We could see a few big trades because Joe has been cataloging offers from multiple teams for a lot of our players and in the final hours will take the best offers after trying to leverage all of them against each other for the best possible return on Jerami, Malcolm and maybe more. The most likely outcome as the reports have indicated is the "what if" posed by this thread, that we actually make no trades before noon tomorrow.

    I'll be disappointed. I won't really understand the direction of this team and the rest of this season will likely be weird. We'll either win too many games and hurt our lotto chances by ending up with the 6th, 7th or 8th worst record, we'll stay where we're at while playing everyone on the roster or we'll sit the guys that for some reason we didn't trade in a tank that will see the value of Jerami and Malcolm hopefully hold steady or probably slip a bit on route to keeping the fifth or ducking into the fourth position in the lotto.
     
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    I have a connection that is in regular contact with Isaac. Two weeks ago I asked him what Jonathan would think of being traded to Portland. Yesterday, I was told that Portland would be close to the last place he'd want to get moved to. Not that he has a choice in the matter, so take it for what it's worth.
     
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    That is interesting. I wonder how much of that is professional and how much is political.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    From NY, chose to go to school at Florida State, and lives in Orlando.......I am guessing it comes down to weather and lifestyle
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    He has also made multiple public comments that would get him "cancelled" in Portland pretty quickly. He was a speaker at a far-right movement proudly speaking out against the Covid vaccine.
     
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    There is some very strong "Bad Ju Ju" in this one.
     
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  20. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Not sure indeed has ever hit the nail on the head so hard.

    Rastajinxopolis
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