What is right wing, what is left wing?

The "Right" and "left" talk has hit a fever pitch in this thread that I started mainly to talk about Nazis. I think I have helped drive that topic off the cliff a bit. We should talk about what it means to be "right" or "left" in a separate thread. I really think there needs to be some definition given to it, historically, and how it's actually defined "now".

I'd like to say first off, that what we considered "left" or "right" is defined differently based on where you live, and what year it is. People that vote for candidates that are "right wing" actually expouse Nazi values, which used to be considered left wing.

 

I don't think you can classify things as simply as left wing or right wing.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html

Take the test and then carefully observe how they classify "political beliefs"... Its not perfect but better then a linear scale which just doesn't work IMO.

 

I would say you're right when you say what is considered left wing and right wing or mainstream or extreme depends on where you live.

Where I'm from, if you're pro-life, you're an anti-choice extremist.

 

I am conflicted on the National ID card thing. I really don't see the issue against having it. I have already had my fingerprints taken, so what does it really matter at this point.

 

What I was driving at was how they use a rotated square with 5 different ideologies.

Part of the problem IMO is that things are oversimplified. Its a matter of either/or i.e. Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Conservative, Coke/Pepsi, etc...

 

Personally, I don't see how you can not take the quiz and not be a Centrist or Libertarian.

I wonder where Bill Clinton, Hillary, Ronald Reagan, JFK, Ted Kennedy, Obama, Arnold S, McCain, Dubya, Putin, Ghandi or Thomas Jefferson might score?

 

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]LIBERTARIANS[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] support maximum liberty in both personal and [/FONT][/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one[/FONT][/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence.[/FONT][/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose[/FONT][/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate[/FONT][/FONT]​

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.[/FONT][/FONT]


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Your PERSONAL issues Score is 60%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 0%.

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

Liberal

LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

 

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

 

In other words, you're boring and have no opinion on anything

 

Here is mine.



Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

 

I hate you all, no-one else is even remotely left

 

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

 

So you think that no one should have an ID card? What are the dangers of having the ID card in your opinion?

 

Why have the ID card when we have Id's from each state? Also have passports. No need to have a nation ID card IMO. It will take too much money from the govt and states, while we could spend that for better things.

 

Am I missing something? This site supposedly determines your political affiliation by asking 12 questions?


Sorry but thats retarded.

 

I look at it this way, I don't really care if someone wants to assign a unique number (SS #)to my file. I do have a problem with getting an electronic GPS device inplanted in my body.

 

Lol, if you don't like it, then don't participate.