Zombie What is the Best Offer We Could Get for C.J. McCollum?

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  1. Blazers Roy

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    I'm pretty sure i got the story of this roster by now and unless Neil will manage to steal the next Greek Freak i'd say this group will remain a 3rd to bottom 2nd tier team.

    There is a difference between building on a bad foundation or planning to build on a good foundation.

    If Neil picked someone like Mitchell or Kuzma in the draft then i'd have some reason to be on the same boat with you, but it looks pretty bad right now.
    BTW: calling other people's ideas "stupid" is not very nice.:cleanup:
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Fair enough. Is the emoji telling me to clean up my posts? :)
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Unless they find a Giannis or Kawhi at pick 15-20, they won't make another 2nd round with this core.
     
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    Being I don't think the Pelicans will hear the names they desire for AD. (Celtics aren't giving up Brown + Tatum + young player + pick for AD)
    Here is my little dream trade scenario.

    Pelicans - CJ + Ed Davis + Vonleh + 1st rounder from Portland.
    Knicks - Harkless
    Portland - Anthony Davis + Lee + Asik

    Works on the trade machine, therefore it must work irl right?
     
  5. riverman

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    CJ could bring you a lot of top tier players in a trade...Lou Williams..Klay Thompson..Isiah Thomas...Booker...Derozan...his value isn't exactly peaking right now though...bad time to trade him and I don't see him traded until at least half his contract is up here
     
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    NO will never trade their franchise player
     
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    And if they were to, they would get much better offers than a decent shooting guard who doesn't defend, an expiring short center, a young power forward and a mid-first pick.

    Boston would blow this offer out of the water. They will have a top 5 pick either this or next year (depends when LAL or SAC pick conveys), they have another extremely valuable pick from Grizzlies (protected 1-8 next year, 1-6 in 2020 and unprotected in 2021) who are going to be a struggling team for a while and could deliver them a good draft spot. Those are much better assets if you are trying to rebuild. Then they also have Brown and Tatum on long deals and could tie Marcus Smart to one if they want to, if it's for Anthony Davis they could flip even the most valuable of them (although I think Tatum is untouchable). Brown is an amazing trade asset IMO.
     
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    We should look at Orlando as our main trade partners for CJ. They need someone like him and they have the assets that could interest us. Fournier, Vucevic, Hezonja and their 2018 pick does that for me, comfortably.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I assume you only mean a combination of some of those--all four would be an insane return for a non-all-star.
     
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    DET seems as a good trade target with players like Bradley and Tobias Harris
     
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    Hey I said dream scenario.
    Even mocked my own scenario.

    Ya'll need to chill.
     
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    C.J for Klay Thompson? Highly doubtful but I'd do it in a New York minute!
     
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    I was thinking about this as well but I just don't see why they would trade for him. Bradley is very good and they will probably be looking to extend him, they have young Luke Kennard waiting on the sidelines, and Harris will be hard to replace. I have had them as main trade partners for CJ but not so sure anymore.

    I would do a deal centered around Drummond and Harris in a heartbeat, not sure what extras we would have to attach to even get them to speak with us though.
     
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    Maybe it's because I'm a Blazer Homer, but I generally prefer that we get the best player in a deal... which doesn't happen in any of these trades
    except for LAC, and in that deal Griffin's deal is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY horrible, so I'd need the 1st, not give one up.
     
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    not sure why would you bring Drummond, hes better rebounder than Nurk, but thats all hes better at
     
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    Depends on Collins. He’s the single most important piece of the roster right now. If he develops properly, Portland could start Aminu at SF or whatever and still be in the upper echelon of the West.
     
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    Drummond is a significantly better finisher around the rim, is a shockingly effective passer (check the assist numbers), and the difference in rebounding is vast.

    Better than asking "what does Drummond do better?" would be to ask "What does Nurkic do better?" According to the stats below, not much.

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    What took you so long?
     
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    Last offseason I suggested the Blazers should have tried to trade Nurk, Moe and Vonleh for Drummond and Harris and was told how dumb that is. Seemed pretty obvious Drummond was going to have a bounce back year and Nurk was unlikely to live up to the expectations fans had created. Didn’t see Moe being a complete no show.

    Drummond was definitely on the block and I bet Harris was too for the right price. Hindsight is always 20/20 but this team would be so much better if they could have pulled something like that off. Imo something of the same will need to be done with CJ. Strike while the irons hot.
     
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    Problem is the iron has cooled off a bit on CJ and Harks Iron is now ice cold. Not sure we could swing that now.
     

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