OT What the Fuck happened to Hip-Hop?

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  1. riverman

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    personally I'm not a fan of watching somebody rap while somebody else plays records on a table....my hip hop dislike starts with the stereo replacing the band...put a lot of musicians out of work...as to comparing the Roots or actual bands to MCs...I don't see them in the same light....James Brown rapped in his songs but not karaoke style...he had a band to back him up...my 2 cents about hip hop....I do like poets who work with RB bands or jazz combos....and that's not new in music...they were doing that in the 50s...I'm a fan of Arrested Development and Blueseum….awesome stuff. The Roots can play anything from Zappa to Miles Davis..DMCs talking about the msg and culture more than entertainment
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I love James Brown, have his entire catalog, but that man fucked over in pay and residuals every artist he played and recorded with.

    But back to your point, in inner city schools the first thing to get cut is music and art. Rapping over records is an inexpensive and easy way for someone to find a creative outlet for music and message.
     
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    So is an acoustic guitar though..Richie Havens...or a harmonica which costs 5 bucks....poets have performed forever with just a sheet of paper...call me old school. A set of bongos is like 50 bucks....I understand where rap comes from as an urban form but have never supported the form as a musical force...personal preference..the Beastie Boys played instruments in their shows at one point. Also not a fan of poorly played music like the Sex Pistols....Arrested Development is an awesome band....I have a friend in a classic rock tribute band here in Eugene who doesn't even play his keyboards live...he has all the parts programed in a just pushes the play button....I give him a hard time about it. Not a fan of drum machines...it's like lip synching to me
     
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    I loved Count Basie and Duke Ellington but no way they could pay that many people and be competitive performing live...actually the Hammond B3 organ put big bands out of business
    you'd be amazed how many band leaders pay their bands peanuts....Disco made everyone think they needed a 120bpm drum machine back beat to make people dance.....and disco did suck for that reason alone
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...not a Rap/Hip Hop fan.
     
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    I'm a poetry fan though.....I've played in a band that backed up some great beat poets back in the day....much better to my ear than the robotic soundtracks they use in this form....my appreciation of the form is the organic content...the lyrics and msg
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    What is this “hip hop” you people talk about? Why do we care about a rabbit who is “with it”? Can we talk about something else now? Maybe talk about music? Yeah, music! Now there’s an idea........
     
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    Beastie Boys started out as a punk band.
     
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    I was never a fan....but I know they played instruments at some point in their career
     
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    Tribe released this song 2 years ago and I've been waiting for them to finish the vid ever since.

    Worth.The.Wait.

     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I used to say that but then I heard some of the work by Idris Elba all in his movies.
     
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    Beethoven's Ninth symphony, fourth movement is based on a beautiful poem by Schiller, Ode to Joy. This may be the best classical work ever.

    Beethoven, by the way, was originally a great fan of Napoleon. He later grew unhappy with Napolean's lust for glory and even renamed a symphony that he was planning on dedicating to Napoleon.
     
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    Yeah, in the bargain bin priced three for five bucks
     
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    Who owns BET? :dunno:

    FUCK VIAACOM...

    Who's signing these MFs...?

    Besides his manager in the front row, who is in this audition clapping at this coonery?



    Only white people can save Hip-Hop!!
     
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    Roots are holdin' it down still. They're on tour right now. I saw @HailBlazers at the show at the Zoo. It was packed!

    Not sure if you saw this but..... :blink:

     
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    Already seen it, black thought is one of the best mc's out there for sure. Always has been, severely underrated
     
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    This is the only Hip-Hop song I know.

     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    One of my heroes when I was a kid.

    I also worshipped, Hoppalong Cassidy, The Lone Ranger, Superman, Roy Rogers, Sky King, Captain Midnight, The Cisco Kid, Matt Dillon, Howdy Doody, Boston Blackie, Tarzan (Johnny Weismueller) and Flash Gordon.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Yeah, I always liked his songs.

     
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