What the Rangers appear to be offering Anton Stralman

Look at our prospect rankings:

Danny Kristo
JT Miller
Jesper Fast
Anthony Duclair
Pavel Buchnevich
Dylan McIlrath
Brady Skjei

McIlrath is 6th now. He is dropping. Not the end all be all, but again I am not sold on him being ready next season, or even being what we hoped ever. But there is still time left of course.

 

Heck they overpaid for Girardi so 4m for Stralman isn't over the top. I wouldn't go beyond that.

 

Skjei is a much better prospect at this point, and Buchnevich has more upside than anyone, he has alot of the qualities Cherepanov did. Mcilrath was overdrafted by a whole round.

 

I don't think they overpaid for Girardi. He was getting 5 + as a UFA this summer, so we agree to disagree there. You are not a Girardi guy, and that is cool.

We agree on McIlrath. Right now we clearly should have taken Fowler and it isn't close really.

 

With Girardi i could live with the 5.5, it's the term that i see being a problem after 3-4y but we'll see.

 

Chuck, Mcilreith is our top d prospect and beukaboom says the kid is ready this season. Kristo in baseball terms is a quadruple a player. As for someone else saying our centers being too small stepan just turned 24 this week is 6' 196 and still filling out, brass is 6'1 202 and 26 and miller is 6'1 202 21 year old who will be filling out more also. Kesler is 6'2 202. I hope we keep our young guys. The only guy I trade for what I consider an actual player in our top 9 is oreilly. Otherwise for thornton like I said miller, kristo and a pick plus paying his salary. I might be in the minority here but I look how kreider was up and down here and the minors 2 years ago and blossomed this year. I expect the same from miller who went through it this year to take big step forward next year and blossom. He's got speed, size he hits and can score. Rather have the youth after too many seasons of watching washed up veterans clogging up spots here. Unless slats can pull a mcdonagh deal with the sharks for thornton or av.'s for oreilly. And for those of you making strahlman out to be a top d I say think back to the reg season when you wanted him released. This would be a depressing signing for me.

 

Maybe, but almost every single UFA contract is that way sc. So to me if we get 3 or 4 solid seasons out of him, and maybe the last 2 seasons he is a 3rd pair guy, so be it. That is how sports works really. Most of those UFA deals you pay an extra year or two.

 

The beauty of McIlrath is we'll know really soon. The kid needs to be ready this season to at least be on the 3rd pair. He has had many years to develop now. The time is now. This upcoming season or worst case next season. So we'll have our answer soon I think. If we are sitting here in October and they deem him still not ready and send him down, that is no good mel. He should be ready by now IMO.

 

I think Miller has a future, but I do not think he is Kreider. I think maybe a 3rd line C. MAYBE if things went really well he could be a 2nd line C at somepoint down the line, but I do not think that time is this season. He may not even be top 9 ready this season.

I would include Miller in a package for Thornton. I would NOT include Stepan for Thornton.

 

no way should we put Step in a Thornton package. Cross that one off immediately.

I dont think Brass is over 200 pounds. He might be listed that way, but that's very generous. Even if he is, he certainly doesnt play like it.

I like Miller a lot. I see him having a role next year. Why not start him on third line wing maybe. This is his 3rd season as a pro, he needs legit shot, not the up-down treatment.

Do you think we could get Thornton for Kristo, Klein and a pick? If Kristo is really our number 1 prospect he should have value around the league. Then go

Hagelin-Thornton-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-MSL
Zucc-Brassard-Miller

What do we think of giving Miller Pouliot's spot? Would also free up more money to either pay Stralman or another guy to take a 2nd pairing spot.

If Miller doesnt work there, he could always be shipped out for a scorer at the deadline.

 

No way we get Thornton for that Prod. It seems like you want to deal Klein, but he has no real value. He is a solid dman 4/5, but in a package he doesn't add much or push it over the top. I think Miller would have to be in a Thornton package, or other top prospects to take his place.

I like Miller but would not make him a deal breaker for Thornton or a big C. I also would have no issue putting Miller in the top 9 as a 3rd line winger if we don't deal him and don't re-sign Pouliot. I can see him as a 3rd line winger next season if we keep him.

But I do think he is likely to get dealt for a C this summer.

 

I was never high on Kristo but it seems other people are. And I disagree, I think Klein does have value. He is signed very reasonably and is a right shot. Can play top 4 minutes. A team out there can definitely use a guy like that.

And while my package probably wouldnt get it done, dont forget there isnt exactly an open market auction for Thornton like there is for Kesler and Spezza. If he wants to come here and here only, we don't necessarily have to break the bank for him. Just need to be reasonable.

 

Eh no. Don't think Kristo beings back a top player

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Maybe Prod, but I do think we will keep Klein anyway and do not want to deal him at 2.9 per for a few seasons. I am a Klein fan. Solid guy like you said. You need guys like that on D.

You do bring up a good point on Thornton's value in a trade, especially if he wants to be in NY. I still don't think the package you mentioned is enough, SJ can simply keep Joe if that is all they can get, but you do have a very fair point about his value. I do still think Miller will have to be in any package for a big C, but I guess we'll find out.

 

You're probably right, but hey Sather has pulled off crazier things.

 

The plus to all this is we still have some exciting hockey related stuff to discuss. This is a fun time to be a Ranger fan. Great post-season. Not far away from winning a cup. The draft is in 5 days. FA discussion starts in 9 days. And the signings start shortly thereafter.

So we have a few more weeks of this until we all take some time off in mid-July until mid/late September....

 

He sure has Prod...LOL.

 

I am with you on those 31. MAYBE I give Brassard 4 or so if we buy out two years of UFA with the contract, but that would be my max, and we must get 2 years of UFA boughtout.

We'd be banking on him being a 50 point guy moving forward.

 

Wow we really overrate our prospects here.

Miller to me looks like he could be a good physical 3rd line player. That is fine by me but those players don't always commanda ton of value in trades. A package of Kristo and Klein no way brings Thornton. I don't like Thornton but he is big and has been a pt per game guy throughout his career. Just because Kristo is our top prospect doesn't mean he is a top prospect.

I would go 4 yrs/15-16m for Brassard. The economics of the game has changed a bit in recent years. Look at what other 45-50 pt centers are getting and he has pretty good chemistry with Zuc.

Were in a pickle on Strahlman. He was ok during the season but was very good in the playoffs. I wouldn't go more than 3/12m for him but I bet other teams do and you have to let him go and hope Allen is ready.

I am starting to wonder if Sather is just going to target Statsny and throw a boatload of money at him