What to do at SF (post-TPE)

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  1. riverman

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    Chief pushes the ball in front of him like a soccer player moves a ball...lot of angles and hitches...he's unconventional that way..same with his shooting...CJ worked with him last season on his 3 pt form...the guy has improved every season here...and most importantly...he doesn't turn the ball over much...people just see him with an unconventional handle and think it's bad...but he makes it work...finishes layups..I think he's fun to watch myself....he doesn't have the low close to the body dribble ...his dribbles are loopy and angular more than up and down like most people use...I've always thought it was growing up playing soccer that gave him his style.....just my opinion...most won't agree and that's all good..not something I care to argue about
     
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    He did get noticeably better last year at not dribbling the ball off his legs and all that. In traffic though it’s terrifying to watch. I can’t disagree that he gets better every year. I really overall like Aminu, very good role player on a great contract.
    Just he’s one of those guys that at times will try to do somethings that isn’t in his wheel house and when he starts to dribble I literally have no idea of what’s about to happen will be good or bad...
     
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    He's much better than Aminu. Look at the turnover stats.

    But besides that, is your eye test failing you?
     
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    Y'all are trippin. Harkless isn't a bad dribbler or passer.

    He isn't a world beater with these skills but let's not push the narrative that he's bad at them, because he's not.

    Say what y'all want, but when he's completely engaged, he's a better player than Aminu.
     
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    Hmm. I’d say Both are pretty solid role players with similar skill sets. Harkless has the “raw” talent I think to be better, but you never know what you’re getting in terms of statistics & effort. Aminu is more consistent in terms of bringing energy everyday. I’d probably say Harkless is better. Overall I think both players are on good to great contracts for what they bring. Harkless pulling the stick out... can be a very good role player.
     
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    Somewhere I read that when we played Lillard, CJ and Napier together we outscored the other team healthily. Substitute Curry or Baldwin, both of which are better than Napier at most things, and I don't see why we can't have similar success. The mystery was that Stotts didn't use Napier at all against New Orleans. Maybe he overthought matchups instead of just seeing if they could matchup with us. (Plus, New Orleans was the better team, and had they had the same lineup for the whole season, we wouldn't've been playing them, they would've bumped us down to #4 in the West.)
     
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    Harkless drives me crazy. He should be the prototype SF. He's built like Scottie Pippen and has real talent. Why can't he stay in the groove?
     
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    Napier had good moments but overall I thought especially towards the end of the season he played bad. I’ll give him some credit his defense for a guard was pesky and he brought it!
     
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    It’s very hard mentally for some guys to go from the man in middle school, highschool, aau, and even college. To being a role player in the NBA I think Harkless’ biggest adjustment is mentally being engaged playing the role that makes him the best player he can be and makes the Blazers a better team.
    2nd half of this year was Moe being a slasher and defender and doing what he does really well, without the woe is me I’m not getting the ball all the time. That Moe Harkless makes the Blazers a much better team.
     
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    I'm talking skill wise.
     
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    I understand it was just an interesting thought that my mind wanted to wander down cause I haven’t really compared them that much (in my head at least). I had fun time going down that path.
     
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    And there's the rub. For all his on-court flaws, Aminu is hard-working and professional. Harkless...not so much.
     
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    Turnovers: Harkless: 1.6/100 possessions & Aminu: 1.9/100 possessions

    Very similar skill set. Neither one is really a threat to take someone off the dribble. Both can attack a closeout with similar success.

    You just hate Aminu because his 'style' is unconventional, so you think he's much worse.
     
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    Chief is bangin' in the post more than Mo...that's why you see a turnover but he's not a turnover machine by any stretch...post players are going to get some balls swiped away from them...happens to Nurk too...ET turns the ball over steppin' out of bounds and off his foot more than anybody on the roster from what I've seen
     
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    shades of raymond felton, maybe not quite that bad though, lol
     
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    Moe posts up more than Chief does
     
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    nah...Chief gets way more rebounds and takes on bigger guys night in night out....bangin' in the post..Mo doesn't spend near the time Chief does in the paint.
     
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