What will it take for Chauncey to get fired?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    what's kind of funny is that the 2021 playoff series against Denver showed that a team didn't have to completely sell out their defense to stop Dame. Denver did run some double and traps at Dame, pretty consistently too; but they didn't completely flex their defense toward Dame

    the result was kind of predictable: Dame averaged 34 & 10 with playoff leading efficiency but Dame's teammates couldn't beat normal defense enough to make a difference. Pretty sure Cronin watched that and thought that the supporting cast was a lot worse than Olshey believed. Olshey chose to, once again, reboot his failing roster and got fired in December. Cronin's first moves were to dismantle the supporting cast
     
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    Yep. The team just wasn't good enough for the playoffs. We general had 3 legit starters. Dame was incredible and CJ and Nurk were okay to good starters. But CJ was duplication of Dame so it wasn't very helpful.

    That team got as far as pretty much any coach could take it. And they were there often enough that they sometimes got lucky and beat a team they probably shouldn't beat in a series.

    That's credit to Dame and Stotts, and sometimes CJ.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Go back and watch the games. There was never one time in that series where Terry flashed a ANY of our bigs to receive a pass in the high post. He KEPT running pick and roll after pick and roll.

    Same as the GSW series.
     
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    I miss making the playoffs.
     
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    I miss making the playoffs and actually having the confidence that we can make it out the first round.
     
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    So Terry Stotts just forgot to do something that had worked incredibly well for several seasons?

    That was literally a featured part of the offense until we played Golden State in the playoffs and they just flat took it away. Then other teams (especialy those with athletic bigs) started taking it away.

    We had no counter.

    Because we didn't have the horses. We only had 3 positions with legit starters.
     
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    That is the way I watched it.
    The counter was our wings who couldn't make a shot when needed. If you pull up stats Aminu actually hit 34-37% of his 3's depending on what year you look but look a little further at the playoffs. Against Denver Aminu hit 5-23 and against GS he hit 1-6.
    Fact is both Harkless and Aminu were good defensively but could not hit shots when defenses took Lillard out. Then there is CJ...
     
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    Yep. And with Harkless and Aminu on the team Stotts had a top 10 defense.

    They both had slow wind-ups on their 3 and didn't catch the ball down and ready to shoot. Good defenses were prepared in the playoffs and had time to rotate, so they were shooting contested 3s in the playoffs.

    We really just needed better players to be legit contenders.
     
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    Jusuf Nurkic in the high post (Free Throw line, Elbow area not the top of the key) was hardly ever used by Terry. I would argue that Nurk was hardly ever used correctly by Stotts and he succeeded despite Terry's coaching.

    We were up double digits in each of those GSW games and Terry did not adjust to their defensive scheme in the 2nd half. At all.
     
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    I miss making the playoffs.
     
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    What this lady said!!!
     
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    This is something that is forgotten around here. Talent wins game, NOT coaches.
     
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    Still trying to find the “#FireStotts….ANYBODY is better” crew around here. Don’t hear from them much…..unless they are the #FireBillups crew now?
     
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    Nah. I'm in the Fire Billups if Stotts will come back crew.
     
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    No coach would win with our current team. That's a fact.
     
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    I think there's a difference between 'fire stotts!' and 'get a new guy in, it's getting stale', no?
     
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    I preferred having Stotts over anything since he was let go. I don't generally approve of change for the sake of change (if you're competitive). It was a bad move when we did it with Adelman as well.

    We shouldn't have moved on from either unless we were pretty sure we had a better coach in line.
     
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    #FireStotts!
     
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    I thought I was the only Terry Stotts fan on the board. Never wanted to fire him and would love him back....guys had career years under Terry that didn't follow them to their next team more often than not. The Wes team was top 10 in defense. Terry would have smoked Chauncey's record over the last 3 seasons and Dame would probably still be our franchise player. We traded Rick Adelman for Mo Cheeks in my view. Fire Stotts went on for his whole tenure here which I never understood but hey....those folks got their way. Bucks should have made him their head coach...they blew it as well in my view. Terry did a lot with less than most franchises. Olshey fired him to save his own job. As it stands, I hope Chauncey can learn to be a top coach...so far he's got a really bad track record.
     
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