What would it take to get Lowry?

We came up with the same trade Mags

 

Jeez, get a room, willya?

 

LMAO!!!! Hahaha. Great minds or some shit like that?

 

I think it's stupid to think that deal would be considered by Toronto.

 

So if they accepted, would you be fine with it? I mean hypothetically and shit like that

 

Sure. Won't happen though.

 

Oh, I totally agree. I'm probably one of the guys most open to making a trade!
I was just trying to put things in perspective. Even though I've joined in on bashing Mo, I don't feel he deserves it. Sure, we've been disappointed with his play but he's doing his best to help the team, and actually has helped way more than he's hurt.

 

Mo is Mo... I like the man, but I don't think his style is best suited to the bench unit we're currently running. With that said, maybe playing him with Batum would work better. Who knows....

 

We have no idea what they're looking for. They just traded Gay, Acy, and Aaron Gray for Salmons, Patrick Patterson, Vasquez and Hayes. Patterson and Vasquez are nice young guys that I'm sure they want to start, so why not deal Lowry for an older point guard that wouldn't mind backing him up on a much cheaper contract?

 

Okay GM Natebishop. Go make that deal!

 

Mo is shooting 41.3%. Lowry is shooting 41.9%.

Lowry is averaging 6.6 assists per 36 min. Mo williams is averaing 6.2 assists per 36 min.

I like Lowry's defense but what makes you think Lowry would want to backup Lillard? I can tell you why I think he wouldn't.

Teams that are going to deal for Lowry are ones that need a starting PG, not a backup. The price will be significant I imagine.

I don't think chemistry is the end-all but it is a factor. And it seems like Mo and Aldridge really get along well, I always seem to see them talking and laughing. I just don't see a reason to do this when we're 18-4 and have our top draft pick about to come back who's also a combo guard. Doesn't make any sense. The grass is not always greener.

 

I have to think an elite athlete with Mo's skills and ability could play differently, with more control, and look for his teammates without forcing turnovers, if he wanted to. It falls on the coach. I suspect Stotts wants Mo to be vintage Jason Terry (he isn't), and has instructed him as such. Mo clearly has a green light. I'd rather Mo spent more effort looking to set up Lillard and Wright than himself. I'm not the coach though.

 

That makes a lot of sense btw. As long as our starters are happy, then maybe the chemistry experiment doesn't need retooling just yet.

I am fine waiting until this summer to fill some voids. For what Olshey had to work with, he's done a fine job! Just imagine what he can do when he has full MLE, a winning record and our current players will hold more value?

 

NB3...just added Lowry's PER but couldn't agree more. Mo is extremely inefficient and pounds the ball like he has a grudge against it. Some will say he hasn't cost us a game...well it's not for lack of trying. Remember the 20 point lead against the Lakers that evaporated with him on the court? He was a -17 that game while Lillard was a +21. That is not an isolated incidence of a very poor +/- number. He is supposed to hold the fort while Dame is on the bench, not create a mess for him to clean up. He is playing against other teams backups and manufacturing a flaming pile of dog doo.

And we haven't even talked about his defense....or lack thereof.

Dribble....dribble...dribble...........still dribbling..

 

And Mo is turning the ball over at a much higher rate. You used Per 36, well Mo is averaging a full TO more per 36 than Lowry. They're averaging virtually the same amount of turnovers, but Mo is doing it in ten less minutes per game. Mo's assist to turnover ration is horrid.

They might also be shooting the same percentage, but Lowry's offensive rating is 20 points higher.

Also, here are some other key stats

True shooting percentage -
Mo: 48%
Lowry: 56%

eFG% -
Mo: 46%
Lowry: 51%

PER -
Mo: 10.5
Lowry: 17.5

Free throw attempt rate (this is huge)
Mo: .069
Lowry: .322

If you look at their advanced stats, it's like an epic beatdown. Mo can't hold a candle to Lowry.

And in regard to your quote from Lowry, that was how long ago? He's been playing on a shitty Toronto team, and I'm sure he probably wants to win. If we give him Mo's 25 minutes per game, on one of the best teams in the league, I can't see him being unhappy. If he doesn't want to come off the bench, I'm sure Neil will find out and that will be that.

 

Look at their eFG% and True Shooting % ... they're not the same because Lowry gets to the line more often and takes a higher percentage of his shots from beyond the arc.

 

It's ten fewer minutes per game, not ten less minutes per game.

Neener.

 

Another thing about Lowry is he is getting a PER of 17.7, but only gives up 12.8 (+4.9). If you pair him with Lillard (+1.8), our PG position would just dominate!

 

How DARE you?

 

Holy Nolan Smith!! A PER of 12.1 giving up 22.5? I've never been a fan because he is a dribble machine but that is ridiculous.