Most voters here do. You shouldn't get your news from Trump 2000 miles away. Check out who won the mayoral election instead.
All of my family lives in Portland metro. That's been discussed in here, as well. They want Wheeler gone. Gonna be interesting at any rate. Apparently, he'll be battling the Antifa mayoral candidate... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-reelection-battle
The 200 demonstrators at his home want a new Mayor to his left, not right as Fox pretends. They want him to control the police more, not them. It's a typical intelligence agency tactic, hoping to run multiple candidates to splinter the left, then win with only one candidate on the unified right.
No argument there. Given the political makeup of the city of Portland, anyone who can get elected here will be Like Wheeler or farther left.
You post things that only back up what you're saying. That's the literal definition of confirmation bias. There was a recall effort (again) for Kate Brown. I guess that means everyone is against Kate Brown (despite it failing to get enough signatures for the 5th time). Just because there are people who are calling for someones resignation, or trying to recall them, doesn't mean the majority are of the same mindset. As someone said earlier, no matter who is elected mayor of Portland (it will almost surely be a D leaning person because Portland is a D leaning city), there will always be loud complainers who complain about that person. And among that small group, will be a weirdly loud and large group of people who don't even live in the area and can't actually pinpoint reasons why they feel that way, just that they feel that way. oh sure, they'll bring up that their family lives there, but still when pressed for concrete examples of what they don't like about the leadership (or lack of) from the mayor, they come up with some snarky response or some generic terms that sound important. And before you go "the moveon.org page shows my feelings, yes sir!", I don't recall you actually saying any of those things. You just say "he's an abject failure! see? told you, he's a abject failure!"
that's the funny thing...people will use the demonstrators are proof they want someone more like trump, when the demonstrators think Wheeler is too much LIKE trump for their liking.
I post things that back up my opinions and would expect that those who don't agree with me might post things that support their opinions. The moveon.org link was only for the purpose of showing there are liberal (not conservative) groups that are calling for his ouster. Shoot, in this case, a group that's left of Wheeler. Go figure.
I did a lot of things I didn’t want to do over the course of my career. But as long as they weren’t illegal or unethical, I did what I was directed to do. That’s why they gave me a paycheck. And it’s not the public’s fault (at least specifically) if law enforcement in general has a crappy reputation. That is on law enforcement, built up over decades and grounded in legitimacy, and it’s up to law enforcement to change that perception in positive ways. Maybe those county crybabies should take a proactive approach rather than a Trump like “Nobody likes me” attitude. These guys are part of the problem but are making it clear they do not want to be part of the solution. And this is why as soon as the smoke clears we’re going to go back to dealing with the same old problems......
Trump has a LONG way to go in this regard. Taking baby steps, though, I suppose. https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21292816/trump-police-reform-executive-order-explained
Yeah right. Donald effing Trump, the Lawbreaker In Chief is gonna change my opinion on law enforcement. It’s on law enforcement and law enforcement only to change public opinion. Funny how you’re okay with Trump breaking laws, but gosh, nail any other law breaker to the cross. Sorry, but you’ve achieved the almost impossible; you’ve made a caricature out of yourself. Donald Trump (And those who enable him) is the problem, not the solution.
I would suggest that their response is less "nobody likes me", and more, "it would be irresponsible and dangerous to place our people into a situation without reasonable and necessary support".
I'm glad firemen and rescue workers don't have that mindset nor first responders in emergency rooms dealing with covid patients.......it's part of the job...the risk is always there
Firemen do have that mindset if a building isn't structurally sound. That's an excellent analogy. A fire fighter wouldn't run into a building with no floor or load-bearing walls. They put themselves in harm's way, but within reason.
My point is they do their job and accept the risks....just like front line soldiers...it's the job to be in harm's way to protect the public. During hurricanes, floods, pandemics, nurses and rescue people take amazingly daring risks with their own lives to save others...police should be no different...a child drowning doesn't have time to wait for backup for example...twin towers was never going to be stable to rescue people from but they sure did their best saving many lives often sacrificing their own
Given that they were called in as backup, that seems pretty silly. "Oh, sorry, our fire truck can't go to that fire. You only have one truck there already, so it would be too dangerous for us. Please call back when you have the fire extinguished, and we'll consider coming over" barfo
There's a difference, nobody's shooting at the firetruck or it would probably stay away. Police are known to stay away from situations they cannot handle. They only go to those kind of situations unless they have the numbers to handle things. You see, police don't like to get killed either unless they have a fighting chance.
If only that were generally true. There seem to be a lot of situations cops can't handle, but try and fail anyway. You are kind of missing the point here. The county guys were asked in so that there would be sufficient numbers to handle things. barfo
No, I did not miss that point. I was responding to your general statement comparing police to the fire department. I know very well why Washington and Clackamas counties refused to support the mayor and it had to do with what they viewed as a lack of political support which is a whole different issue which I've been too lazy to critically think through. I guess I just don't care that much whether Clackamas or Washington county police support Portland police or not. I've got too much else going on in my life.
