Where is George Bush?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He's finally getting feisty because people have forgotten what a shitty president he was. It's funny how time can do that....
     
  2. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    That link is 4 years older than mine. Given the age, I'd probably consider the $167 more accurate. Although even that is probably high, given that he apparently lost so much money between the two periods, and the recession. Whatever, though.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The American dream...
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    2010 linky.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/0...st-as-lawmakers-grow-wealth-in-recession-new/

    John Kerry Is Richest as Lawmakers Grow Wealth in Recession, Newspaper Says

    The richest? That would be Sen. John Kerry, (D-Mass.), who tops the list for the second year with a minimum net worth of $186.6 million, a boost of about $20 million from 2008, with much of it credited to his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry. Sen. Kerry got some unwanted publicity last month when questions were raised about him docking a $7 million family yacht in Newport, R.I., which levies virtually no taxes on pleasure craft, instead of in Massachusetts, which imposes substantial fees.

    In calculating the wealth of members of Congress, The Hill said its formula is not foolproof since the ethics forms required of senators and representatives only demand ranges of income and holdings, not precise figures. Left off the list, for instance, is the very wealthy Wisconsin Sen. Herb Kohl of retail store fame, who owns the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team. Since the upper range required for financial disclosure is $50 million, the much higher full value of the NBA franchise does not show up in Kohl's filing, The Hill said.
     
  5. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Oh yeah, I forgot about the yacht thing.

    Jeez, it really is bad form to have all this money fall in your lap as a Democrat, and then hide from a yacht docking tax.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    To add to my previous post...

    When Kerry was running for president, there was serious talk that because of his and his wife's massive net worth, just about any presidential decision could affect their stock portfolio in a positive way and be considered a conflict of interest.

    In fact:

    http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-06-27/news/17431894_1_heinz-stock-teresa-heinz-kerry-public-records

    Kerry's spouse worth $1 billion / Amount is twice what was thought

    June 27, 2004|By Ralph Vartabedian, Los Angeles Times

    Teresa Heinz Kerry, through a network of investments in blue-chip corporations, venture capital funds and municipal bonds, controls a family fortune worth an estimated $1 billion, an examination of public records shows.

    The $1 billion figure is double the estimates of her wealth that are widely cited in news stories about her husband, Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

    The couple would rank as the wealthiest to occupy the White House, far surpassing such storied presidential fortunes as the Kennedys'. Their assets are so vast and far-reaching that they mirror the U.S. economy, and will likely raise questions about conflicts of interest.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    To reply to myself again (and mook)... a more recent link about her net worth - it's still $1B. I figured it would be roughly the same since she'd have to own all Las Vegas (or Detroit) real estate for her assets to have lost 80%. The stock market is pretty much where it was in 2000.

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/10/billionaires08_Teresa-F-Heinz-Kerry_UZ1H.html

    #1062 Teresa F Heinz Kerry
    Net Worth: $1.0 bil
     
  8. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    The main reason Reaganites thought he was shitty was his lack of feistiness.

    The Christian right elected Carter in 1976 when someone far more liberal would have won easily, and then they abandoned him in 1980 because they said he was too wimpy and full of Christian love.

    So those of you on the Religious Right will naturally celebrate the backbone he now shows.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I like backbone. I like it better when the backbone isn't anti-American and pulled from one's anal orifice:
    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/09/200992116049879437.html

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32869276/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
     
  10. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    For his own safety it's probably in his best interest to disappear.
     
  11. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    fixed.
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    Jimmy Carter is an assclown who never got it when it came to foreign or domestic policy. He's done one good thing since becoming a one-term ex president, and that's habitat for humanity. Everything else he's done has been disastrous. Giving him the nobel prize turned that prize into the joke it's been ever since.
     
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    How naive of you.

    President Carter has spurred the spread of democracy throughout the world more than any President in history through his many volunteer mediations between world leaders and his participation in assuring open and free elections in dozens of countries who have never had them before.

    He raised the bar for future Peace Prize Nobelists to aspire to.

    from his bio:

    Jimmy Carter served as president from Jan. 20, 1977 to Jan. 20, 1981. Significant foreign policy accomplishments of his administration included the Panama Canal treaties, the Camp David Accords, the treaty of peace between Egypt and Israel, the SALT II treaty with the Soviet Union, and the establishment of U.S. diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China. He championed human rights throughout the world. On the domestic side, the administration's achievements included a comprehensive energy program conducted by a new Department of Energy; deregulation in energy, transportation, communications, and finance; major educational programs under a new Department of Education; and major environmental protection legislation, including the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act.
     
  14. Denny Crane

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    Jimmy Carter made Iran what it is today - a nation that supports organized terrorist groups throughout the mideast and who attack our troops there and who's trying to become a nuclear nation with a scary outcome. His diplomacy left tens of millions of people living under the kind of rule you hate - religious - with all the chopping off of hands and that soft of thing that goes along with it.

    The peace between Israel and Egypt was the only bright spot in his presidency, yet Egypt was more than willing because they got the Sinai back in the process.

    Your bio lies. Nixon went to China and named GHW Bush was the first ambassador to China in 1974, roughly three years before the disaster known as the Carter presidency.

    Carter left office with interest rates near 20%, inflation near 20%, and unemployment near today's level. Another term and those numbers would likely have doubled if not become even worse than that.

    He was a miserable failure of a president and he's a despicable human being.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    God knows it's my American dream. I just need to find some billionaire heiress..
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not really. The bio says that he established diplomatic relations with the PRC, and that is in fact accurate. While Nixon went to China, he did not establish "diplomatic relations" because China wouldn't allow that without our dropping relations with Taiwan. Carter dropped Taiwan and recognized China.

    I don't see the point in arguing the former, but what's the basis for the latter opinion?

    barfo
     
  17. MARIS61

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    Iran has been that way all my life, and I'm older than you. It was a terrorist state armed by Nixon and Ford before Carter was elected, and the same group of Ayatollas still rule it today with weapons bought from Reagan, Clinton and Bush #1. The only change with Iran was that Carter was the only President to stand up to them.

    The economy collapsed years earlier under the weight of a criminal president who abolished the gold standard and an illegal war, followed by the total incompetence of Ford. Many was the afternoon I wasted in a gas line for $3 gallon. Today's high prices way back in 1972/73. For reference, gas in 1970 was 29 cents a gallon at the Shell in LO.

    Nixon sent GB to China as a spy, under the guise of ambassador, and he was regarded as such by China. We had no meaningful relations with them until Carter pushed for them.
     
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  18. Denny Crane

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    No offense, but it's tin foil hat time!

    I'm no spring chicken - I was in college when Carter was president. I remember him taking in the Shah and pissing off the Iranians. I remember Nightline started just to cover the Hostage Crisis of his own making. He decimated the military to the point where people died trying to get helicopters off the ground to attempt a rescue. And I remember him making a nationally televised speech offering arms for hostages.

    He was a laughing stock.

    Iran was not a terrorist nation as you claim. They recognized Israel and underwent numerous westernization policies. And the Shah came to power in the 1950s, long before Reagan or Bush or Nixon or Ford were president.

    Gasoline prices never saw $.60/gallon in the 1973 oil shock.

    Ford may have been incompetent, but he was not so much so that he was a danger to the country like Carter was. Both he and Nixon fought inflation and unemployment and interest rates, but were only able to affect two of the three. Carter couldn't control any of the three.
     
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    He didn't vanish. Right now he's probably so disgusted by the current occupant of the White House that he's trying to imagine he's in another country.
     
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    Pure fiction.
     

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