Which is More Significant: Finishing 3rd in the West or the Playoff Sweep?

49 wins sucks? What's that say about the 23 teams that won fewer that 49 games? What about the 9 teams that won fewer than 29 games? If 49 wins is the definition of sucking, what do you call teams that won half that many games?

BNM

 

Those 9 teams that won fewer than 29 regular season games won the exact same amount of playoff games as the Blazers... ZERO... and they added a lottery pick to their roster while Blazers added Seth Curry

 

If you're looking for me to try to make excuses for Olshey, that boat has long since left port. I think he's done an okay job of drafting, a horrible job of managing the cap, and a terrible job of bringing in free agents or making trades that have benefited the team. I think he'd probably be done if it weren't for the fact that there's not likely to be another quality GM willing to take on the Blazers until they get closer to being out of cap hell.

 

Great post.

Yeah. My $42.50 denial for my seats will show PA!!!

You cant be serious with that. For every person not going ot a game, there will be another wanting to go. This is almost Gronk worthy.

If I yell at the wall long enough, it wont be a wall anymore....

Yeah right....

 

Don't add your own context to what I said. Hopefully I can clear this up:

Notice how people were saying "the rebuild is over" at the end of the season, and then after the sweep it changed to "Well, we're still rebuilding"...

 

I've never used rebuilding as "an excuse to suck". In the first place, I don't think the Blazers suck. In the second place, I don't get caught up in either blaming or excusing things relating to the Blazers. Sometimes I'll point out my opinion as to why something happened, but I'm more here for the enjoyment of rooting for the team and having fun with fellow Blazers fans. I guess I just don't see that my opinion on what the Blazers should or shouldn't do amounts to much more than an opportunity to kick things around with friends.

 

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Some teams actually value what the fans think

Masai: “The fans are always on my mind, but they don’t have the information that we have and that sometimes makes it hard. If we didn’t do anything, I think everybody would by (mad). ‘It’s the same team ... will only lose in the playoffs again would be the narrative.’”

vs.

Neil: "But this idea that (we need) sweeping changes. Where were all these people that wanted sweeping changes 10 days ago? Where were they? They were the ones bouncing off the walls in the Moda Center when we got the third seed for the first time since 1999-00... Relative to people back in December who were complaining that we weren't going to make the playoffs and we were in purgatory because we weren't going to make the playoffs and we weren't going to pick high enough. Right? That was the rallying cry. Then it was, 'Oh my God. They're going to blow the third seed because they're going to lose all these games. They're not even going to get home court advantage.' They overreacted to that.”

 

Nope. I didn't notice that. If it happened, I don't agree with it. As long as Aminu and Harkless are still on the starting roster, my view is that there's still rebuilding to be done.

 

Any GM who pays the least little bit of attention to what fans think should be done with respect to actual moves by the team ought to be fired on the spot. Jeez, what a stupid notion.

 

Some teams actually value the opinion of their fans

Masai: “The fans are always on my mind, but they don’t have the information that we have and that sometimes makes it hard. If we didn’t do anything, I think everybody would by (mad). ‘It’s the same team ... will only lose in the playoffs again would be the narrative.’”

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Neil: "But this idea that (we need) sweeping changes. Where were all these people that wanted sweeping changes 10 days ago? Where were they? They were the ones bouncing off the walls in the Moda Center when we got the third seed for the first time since 1999-00... Relative to people back in December who were complaining that we weren't going to make the playoffs and we were in purgatory because we weren't going to make the playoffs and we weren't going to pick high enough. Right? That was the rallying cry. Then it was, 'Oh my God. They're going to blow the third seed because they're going to lose all these games. They're not even going to get home court advantage.' They overreacted to that.”

 

Hey!! You are back!!!. Thanks for ending the constant shove of your opinion on us. Welcome back. Lets talk Ball!!!

 

Well Toronto has been better than Blazers so I guess it’s not so stupid.

 

And you seriously think that's because management has been paying attention to what fans think should be done?

 

Its one thing to value, its another to understand that fans dont have all the inside info and to not get caught up in who they want on the team.

Its one thing to value the fans thoughts and keep them in your mind. Its another to cater to the fans, which in my opinion would be a very bad move. Fans know about as much as owners... just enough to get the team into real trouble.
Otherwise there is a reason there are people in certain position in every organization that get [aid big bucks to analyze the data or info we do NOT have... thus coming to a more educated decision/opinion than any fan could ever have.

 

firing the coach of the year and trading the most popular player to ever play there who wanted to stay for his entire career for a one year rental....sure...the fans were NOT happy about it and Masai could give a shit

 

We agree. That's my point as well. Nothing will change because so many fans are cool with mediocrity.

Look at the the era before Aldridge and Roy. 16k came to the games, so they made a change. Now, fans will come because guys are nice and they'll do ok

 

It’s not about the fans dictating every individual move... it’s about a GM having respect for the fans opinion of the product on a higher level... making a change to give them something different to watch, to give hope... not doing the exact same thing every year and expecting different results. And also not insulting the fans with condescending angry interviews.

 

don't confuse the fans with Jason Quick and Dwight Jaynes.....

 

Y'all define rebuilding in weird ways. Is Golden State rebuilding since they could improve this off-season too? It seems like some view "rebuilding" and "improving the roster" as the same thing.