Which player besides Lillard would you most be upset to see traded?

There is a big difference between being TOLD and SHOWN what to do

To effectively show a player what to do, the coach needs some practical experience.

 

Hence, “how”

 

I can tell you 'how' to do a job without showing you a damn thing.

 

Yeah they probably just sit in a chair and send in hand signals

 

True fan right there.....

Wait though... so you think that if a Coach coaches a player to do one thing and the player does something else on the court, it isn't the coaches responsibility to get the player to fix that shit or get rid of him?

By your reasoning, why have coaches and why not just let the players coach themselves since its all on them?

The facts are this... much of the time, our big men are not in the right spots(Ed and Collins are exceptions), not finishing well at the rim.

IF a coach tells a player to do one thing and the player does another it isn't on the player, its on the coach.

Players will always be in it for stats and fame (good ones understand the sacrifice of this to be part of a winning team), but all of them want to be the best. Some of them don't know what it takes to be the best and if they don't listen to the coach, then the coach needs to change the message until it sinks in. That's what coaching is all about.

 

How many DNP-CD’s does Meyers have this year? Noah? Coaches don’t get to “get rid” of a guy.

 

Yes they do. If a front office is one with he coaching staff, and they should be, then its up to Stotts to let the team know this guy wll not fit with our game, or to tell the front office, the player isn't listening. Its then up to the front office to get rid of the guy.

Do you think Pop doesn't go to the front office and let them know a player is or isnt coachable?
Do you not think that NO and Stotts meet up and discuss these things?

Also a DNP is getting rid of a guy.

IF a player isnt listening to the coach then its on the coach to bench his ass.... get rid of him.

You are stuck on Meyers, so lets continue with him. And how I will continue is to tell you what BNM said about him and Hughes's departure respectively.

Your response was that Meyers should have took what he learned and continued to excel.
You also admitted some players just don't get it and aren't cut out for the NBA.
So which is it? Meyers should be playing better on his own because he has the skills to figure it out, or he is not cut out for the nba?

Either way, would not a big man coach help to figure this out?

Secondly, I think EVERYONES problem is we don't want to see this same regression in our new young bigs.

The improvements are far and few between for any of our big men over the last couple years. This isn't all the players.

You are right in that some players are not meant for the NBA.
So Nurk, VOnleh, Meyers, all not NBA calibre?

IF they ARE NBA caliber, but don't have the mental skills to improve on their own, then why not get them a big man coach?

Its really not that difficult to understand this.... unless you are saying NONE of our big men are fit for today's NBA.....

I also like how you cherry picked one sentence and did not address the substance of my post....

How about we put it into other terms.

A child genius.
Smarter than all his peers in school.... will STILL GO TO SCHOOL TO IMPROVE.....but will just look for better teachers....

 

Your first paragraph sounds nice but is also LaLa land. And Meyers is a prime example of it. Coaches and GMs don’t agree on players every single day.

 

I'm assuming you are mocking me about being a true fan. Ironic since I'm rooting for the name on the front of the jersey.

But ya, all those feels with the do good stories

 

OB, do you remember a game last year before Plumlee got traded.
The other team called a timeout to set a last play to win the game.
Portland came out and gave up the winning basket. allowing the inbounds pass to go to the rim.
This board, talking ball, twitter, facebook and every other SM was all over Stotts for not putting a big on the inbounds pass with so little time left.
Only when Quick came into talking ball and said. 'Stotts wanted Plumlee on the inbounds pass, but it just didn't happen.'

Sometimes coaches can talk until their blue in the face and players don't listen. That's on the players, not the coach.
It's on the coach if he doesn't bench said player.

Stotts has benched Nurk multiple times for not taking advantage of a matchup this year...
I mean shit he played 17 minutes last game because right after a timeout. According to Brooke 'Stotts looked right at Nurk during the timeout and said, you have to take advantage of Harrison Barnes when he's switched onto you.' Very next possession Nurk turned it over and Davis was summoned to get Nurk out.
Stotts has also benched Vonleh, and Harkless this year. Harkless is obvious, Vonleh is mostlikely due to a rookie playing better than him on both ends.

As far as bigs not finishing at the rim. All of the Portland bigs lack basic footwork, so they are off balance 90% of the time when they go to finish at the rim.
Lillard had this issue early in his career also, but that has changed.

 

I see no reason to be upset trading anyone on this team. I would like to see a team play like they might become contenders. If a trade could do this, wonderful.

 

you misspelled Nurkic

 

Let it bake?

 

Nurk is God to him.
I got it. Read more of his posts. Some are funny!

 

most are not

 

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Am I doing it right?

 

Easily Nurkic. Everyone complains about his offense, but he still makes an impact defensively. He’s also got the highest ceiling. He shows flashes of being an elite center, which to me is still the most valuable position on the court outside of maybe PG. Despite all his “inconsistencies,” Nurkic has neutralized or outplayed pretty much every traditional center in the league this season.

I see and appreciate his value, but CJ is useless when not scoring. I’d trade him before Nurkic AND Collins.