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Which rookie has the best future in the NBA?

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">remember when some folks that darko was gonna win ROY?</div>

I don't remember anyone making that statement.I said all along Darko was going to be brought along slowly.

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Lebron James and Melo are going to have the brightest future ahead of them, but I think Lebron has a brighter one.

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I am all about winning, and I think Melo should win the award. In my opinion, you have to be in the playoffs to be considered for such a prestigous award. I take Melo for now and the future.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Prophecy:</div><div class="quote_post">I am all about winning, and I think Melo should win the award. In my opinion, you have to be in the playoffs to be considered for such a prestigous award. I take Melo for now and the future.</div>

So Melo is the soul reason why the Nuggets have been winning to you? Sad. That also means that rookies like Darius Songaila of the Kings would be ahead of Melo because he is winning more than any other rookie. Don't be that close minded, everyone knows your a hater, lol.

Yes I do remember some people saying that Darko would win the award in September, it was funny as hell.

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For you to relate Carmello Anthony and Darius Songaila is rediculous. Carmello is averaging 18 ppg, 6.3 rpg, and 3 apg on a WINNING team. Carmello is rookie of the year in my opinion.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">So Melo is the soul reason why the Nuggets have been winning to you? Sad. That also means that rookies like Darius Songaila of the Kings would be ahead of Melo because he is winning more than any other rookie. Don't be that close minded, everyone knows your a hater, lol.</div>
I think what he meant is that the wins are what separates Melo and Bron. He didn't say that Melo is the reason the Nuggs are winning. However he did fail to acknowledge the fact the Melo has an (arguably unfair) advantage over Bron, because of the team that he is on.

However, considering that Melo is supposed to only be a scorer, and Bron all around, Melo's stats are awfully close to Bron's supposed versatility.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes I do remember some people saying that Darko would win the award in September, it was funny as hell.</div>

Thin line between funny and sad, lol.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Prophecy:</div><div class="quote_post">For you to relate Carmello Anthony and Darius Songaila is rediculous. Carmello is averaging 18 ppg, 6.3 rpg, and 3 apg on a WINNING team. Carmello is rookie of the year in my opinion.</div>

You can't even spell his name right, lol.

Nuff said.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">However, considering that Melo is supposed to only be a scorer, and Bron all around, Melo's stats are awfully close to Bron's supposed versatility.</div>

Close? James has been the better scorer, shot a better %, and the assist numbers are not even close at all. I know that many don't look at assists as an important stat, I don't understand why though.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">You can't even spell his name right, lol.

Nuff said.</div>

Instead of saying something worth anything, like for the Carmelo and Lebron argument, you criticize spelling a name. Sad.

How bout posting something worth reading, or have you given up and say Carmelo should win?

<--- Carmelo

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You argue that Carmelo has a lot of good players and that Lebron doesn't, which adds to my point. Carmelo is averaging his numbers on a playoff team and Lebron is getting his numbers on a bad team. Lebron's numbers could be inflated for being on a team with no players.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Prophecy:</div><div class="quote_post">How bout posting something worth reading, or have you given up and say Carmelo should win?</div>

You are a Bulls guy, a very biased one (which you openly admit), it's easy to understand why you would not support a rival :mrgreen:

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Close? James has been the better scorer, shot a better %, and the assist numbers are not even close at all. I know that many don't look at assists as an important stat, I don't understand why though.</div>

How has he been a better scorer? He is averaging 1.3 ppg more than melo. A better shooter? He is only shooting 1% better (and Melo is actually shooting 6% better from three).

I am not saying that Melo stats are better. But Melo is supposed to only be a scorer, yet he is close to Bron (a supposed all-around player) in every category but assists.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Prophecy:</div><div class="quote_post">You argue that Carmelo has a lot of good players and that Lebron doesn't, which adds to my point. Carmelo is averaging his numbers on a playoff team and Lebron is getting his numbers on a bad team. Lebron's numbers could be inflated for being on a team with no players.</div>

LOL, if that is what you think, go ahead man, more power to ya.

I'm out of this thread.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">You are a Bulls guy, a very biased one (which you openly admit), it's easy to understand why you would not support a rival :mrgreen:</div>

Both the Bulls and Cavaliers are terrible. If they were both in the thick for the playoffs, I might be considered biased. But, they aren't, and I am just speaking of what I feel.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">How has he been a better scorer? He is averaging 1.3 ppg more than melo. A better shooter? He is only shooting 1% better (and Melo is actually shooting 6% better from three).

I am not saying that Melo stats are better. But Melo is supposed to only be a scorer, yet he is close to Bron (a supposed all-around player) in every category but assists.</div>

Assists are a major stat man, you know that. By your point we could compare the current Damon Stoudamire with John Stockton in his prime.

You can do so much better.

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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Assists are a major stat man, you know that. By your point we could compare the current Damon Stoudamire with John Stockton in his prime.

You can do so much better.</div>

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">
I'm out of this thread.</div>

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">Assists are a major stat man, you know that. By your point we could compare the current Damon Stoudamire with John Stockton in his prime.</div>

First off, let's keep this friendly, because I am enjoying this debate.

Can you honestly say that anyone would expect Melo to have more assits than Bron? Bron runs the point while Melo is a 2/3. It's safe to expect a pg to get more assists than a sg or sf. How does that give Bron an advantage? He is simply doing what he's supposed to, as is Melo.

Not the best analogy. Stoudamire and Stockton were not in their prime at the same time. I have heard you acknowledge in other threads that the game evolves with time. We are comparing two rookies, not two pgs that were in their respective primes in different decades.

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lol, I love you guys man (for a reason you would not like)

I am out of this thread now for real, I had my fun.

Till next time...

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James:</div><div class="quote_post">lol, I love you guys man (for a reason you would not like)

I am out of this thread now for real, I had my fun.

Till next time...</div>

Next time meaning in 5 minutes? j/k... You know I am just messin with you KJ. How could I ever say that to someone you made the SWEETEST avatar. :mrgreen:

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trail_Blazer76:</div><div class="quote_post">Can you honestly say that anyone would expect Melo to have more assits than Bron? Bron runs the point while Melo is a 2/3. It's safe to expect a pg to get more assists than a sg or sf. How does that give Bron an advantage? He is simply doing what he's supposed to, as is Melo.
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If Lebron is expected to get more assists at PG then shouldn't Carmelo be expected to score more at SG or SF? Lebron needs to set up his teammates as well as score and rebound, Carmelo is just a scorer, so shouldn't he have top score more than lebron?

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