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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by LameR, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

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    Its a possibility, I think a real one. I believe there was some rumors floating around that he was contacted by 15 teams....I think he was playing a lot of bluffing, and when push came to shove, nothing came to fruitition.
     
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    It could still do that this summer for a player that doesn't fit into the long-term plans, plus the Blazers save almost $5 million on the RLEC in cash. Why won't you acknowledge this and admit that you are clueless?
     
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    Well, I'm convinced. :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Yes, if we renounce Blake, Outlaw and Frye versus just losing RLEC.
     
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    That's not true though.
     
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    Then it seems pretty to silly to criticize Pritchard for not doing a deal. Unless you know of good deals he turned down, criticism makes no sense.

    For a team looking to get under the luxury tax threshold, Portland had $4.5 million to offer. The rest of the $13 million expired only after calculations for which teams are over the tax threshold were done.

    So, we know that. We don't know whether any teams offered anything of real value for that chance.
     
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    Chuck Taylor BATUUUM SHAKKA LAKKA!

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    You really think a guy who made six trades on the '06 draft day and 4 on the '07 draft day couldn't muddle through the offers to make one today? Really?
     
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    Well, then let's give KP a free pass!
     
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    Possibly. I think there were probably deals on the table but he couldn't get the deal he wanted done, so he just threw them away. No guarantee he can get the deal done in the summer either....he has less flexibility.
     
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    No one's saying to give him a free pass. You're avoiding the issues.
     
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    I'm not giving KP a free pass, but I am calling you out for your ignorance on both what was actually offered and what being under the cap this summer could mean in terms of a trade.
     
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    Hehe. Not criticizing blindly = give a free pass.

    You definitely ride the edge of your emotions, don't you? ;)
     
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    What issue am I avoiding? That we can trade this summer? I've already gone over that.
     
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    Sorry, I thought that was your response to my last comment.
     
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    before we get ahead of ourselves and keep on shitting me, I'm happy with the team still. I'm just pissed we weren't able to get Gerald Wallace for RLEC, which I think could have been done if we had included Batum, which I would have gladly done. I think Wallace is a starting quality SF and would have been tremendous next to Roy.....Him or Rjeff, IMO could have put us into a deep playoff run THIS YEAR.
     
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    Ironically, I really wanted Wallace or Butler to be a Blazer today myself. I just don't understand the mentality that you know better than KP, when you weren't privy to the deals being offered. That doesn't mean KP is infallible, but it does mean that your criticism is based on speculation. And if your criticism is based on speculation, it is crappy ass criticism.
     
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    everyone's opinions are based on speculations. from what happens this summer with cap space to anything else. we're fans behind computer screens, you can't expect much.

    even the "insiders" have been shown to be full of shit.
     
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    I can expect at least a basic understanding of the facts, right?
     
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    Well I guess you're right that most of our opinions are based on speculation. But normally we are debating a certain player versus another, or a certain trade versus another. The variables are known. Here, you are basically arguing that "making a trade that I don't have any concrete details about would be way better than not trading." Being that there is an unknown variable in your argument, I think its a completely different (and flat out wrong) way of speculating.
     

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