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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Driew Well-Known Member

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    I just know Crabbe will thrive in a starting role. He's shown if given the minutes he can produce. He just struggles as a 6th man scorer because that's not his thing.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Hats pretty much the only way I would take on that contract, but yeah, I don't see NY offering that....but they are the Knicks..
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    That difference would have been the Greek freak, so not the best analogy
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    True, but look at most drafts and 15 is some scrub. Remember Luke Babbitt? 5 spots is a huge difference.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This is a deep draft class though.
     
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  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Remember. This isn't coming from Neil's mouth over mimosas. This 2nd and or 3rd hand info.
     
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    So 10th and 15th will be better than usual. Still a big difference.
     
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    I've said this before, but the minute they traded Plumlee, I figured this current roster was finished. I think everyone outside of Dame, CJ, and Nurk is on the table and I wouldn't be surprised if we had 7 or 8 completely new players between now and the start of next season.
     
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    I believe it though. Windhorst said the Blazers will be active. Kennedy same thing. Hell, even before the season started the expectation was the Blazers would be active at the deadline. A lot of smoke there, and it makes sense.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Nothing not to believe. Just have to wait and see if they can make something happen
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Agreed 100%. I've always felt this way. Outside of the obvious superstars that go in the top 3 or 4 picks, it really comes down to scouting and talent evaluation - this is especially true in the 10 - 15 range. At that point, some teams will gamble on "projects" others will drafted based on need. If you're smart, there is quality to be had anywhere between 10 and 15. Tanking is for losers - by definition.

    I don't see how Crabbe to TOR works unless we get a third team involved. The point of moving Crabbe is to unload salary too get us in a position to be below the tax threshold next season. So, that means we need a team that is far enough below the cap to absorb his contract without sending back comparable salary, or in exchange for expiring contracts. TOR doesn't meet the former, and they don't really have the expiring contracts to match Crabbe's salary + trade kicker (paid by POR, but counts as incoming salary to his new team). Patterson and Sullinger are both expiring, but their combined salary is still about $4 million short of matching Crabbe's. It makes no sense to take back another big contract, like DeMarre Carroll. Might as well keep Crabbe. So, maybe some kind of 3-team trade involving someone like PHI or DEN that is below the salary floor.

    Crabbe straight up for Derrick Rose works and Rose is an expiring. This would be a pure salary dump, as we wouldn't even try to re-sign Rose. Are the Knicks dumb enough to give us a draft pick for the privilege of taking on Allen Crabbe's contract? Something tells me they are, otherwise, why would they be interested? Can we also get them to include Kyle O'Quinn? He'd be a great back up big man. He's a brute, only 26 and on a very cheap contract for another season after this one. His BLK% of 7.2 is elite. We could toss in Vonleh or a combination of Napier and Patty Baseball to make the salaries match.

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Because of the other picks this year. Portland should be able to get most anyone by moving up. I'm normally for the higher pick, but this year it may not matter
     
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    I'm down for O'quinn, he'd be a solid backup for Nurkic. Someone mentioned O'quinn plus lee for Crabbe. I know lee is older, but he's a really good shooter, and I like him as a fit in Portland. Was someone I had in mind in the summer when he was a FA.

    Oh and Lees agent is Dan Fegan. Lol.
     
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    Another example of how the draft has become a crap shoot. the 15th pick, 12th, and 10th all should all have been in the top 5.
     

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