Politics White Nationalist Rally turns to violence and terrorism

Oh man! If only you would.

 

Wait people are still trying to say the organizers of this protest were peaceful?
You don't show up as armed as their leader did, and not hope for a confrontation.

 

You also don't get to show up with bats and claim you were peaceful.

It doesn't float.

 

well in fairness, many showed up in cars...way more dangerous....as well as concealed weapons which are allowed by law...a bat is a feeble defense against either....facing a Nazi mob I'd probably carry a big stick myself

 

holy fuck why carry a "big stick" unless you plan on getting violent? these fucking weird excuses by people on the left. Just reading this made my brain hurt. How about just not show up at all and not be around a bunch of fucking idiots on both sides but nah man riverman will show up with a stick ya know just incase....okay

 

it's never peaceful on both sides. The extreme of the extreme always show up for both and then clash and get fucking crazy, that's why no normal humans go to these. People go to this event looking to get into an altercation, nothing peaceful about it as much as their signs tell you

 

No. There is no such thing as 'way more dangerous'. A weapon is a weapon.
If you show up to counter protest you do not get to claim you are peaceful if you show up with a weapon.
If you show up to protest you do not get to claim you are peaceful if you show up with a weapon. concealed or not.

 

If you really want to get technical you can become a felon if you use a bat as a weapon in self defense.
As I have a family friend who is a felon for just such action.
Jumped by three people outside a bank after cashing paycheck.
Grabbed bat in his car. Hit one person in the calf. Rest took off.
Registered felon.

A weapon is a weapon.

 

There are certain individuals on both sides who go to a protest or counter protest looking for a confrontation.
However there are normal people who go to protest and who are peaceful. It's the few who ruin it.
There is no harm in saying that.

 

Listen. These things are riddled with aggressive mentalities that many feel violence will be the only thing to actually create change that benefits thier agenda. This is on both sides.
Its all over the news, its blatant enough to where the hermit living in the cave in the woods probably knows whats going on these days.

SO. If you desire to attend one of these events held by either a KKK/White supremacist or an antifa gathering... you are consciously expecting and actively looking for violence.
Anyone denying that is not being honest. You can say you are not and you are there in peace, but you went to an event that has violent minds walking around.... so you PUT yourself in that situation consciously.
The ones who want peace and want too protest peacefully are the ones discussing this. You me, others like us.

And yes. A weapon is a weapon is a weapon. ALL weapons are a sign of violence, whether in offense or defense.. those carrying them are expecting something. Denying that is also not being honest.

 

but even they have intentions of a peaceful protest, they KNOW they are putting themselves amidst those who are looking for more than peace. The moment you are consciously putting yourself in that situation, you can no longer play the victim card.

 

From everything I've been told(as I wasn't there personally, but do have friends who went) by people who went to the protest in Portland organized to resist Trump's election.
It started peaceful, then 4-5pm hit and the 'Bernie Sanders supporters' showed up(you know the people who don't have jobs) hiding their faces. My friends knew the cops wouldn't be far behind. My friends who had no interest in staying around for violence.
Theres someone on the forum who did the same. As they've mentioned it before.

There are some protests like the specific one this thread was originally dedicated to, where you're spot on.
But not every protest is started by people who have violence on their minds.

However that's all as we see as a society as people who stream to fblive/twitter/MSM/local news.
Know the only way they'll get attention and become internet famous is if they get the violence.

 

beg to differ...

 

I never said started. I just said event. Doesn't matter who starts it anymore. Its pretty much common sense that the extremists will show regardless at some point.
It would be nice if we could say, all peaceful antifa members protest from 3-5 and then the violent ones will show up at 5, so those who want peace should leave at 5.

It would be nice it things worked that way, but they don't. Its a random timing but consistent events.

 

The mere fact you brought up who 'starts it' in a response to my post...
When I have multiple posts condemning both sides makes me believe you just want to argue just to argue.
Which I have no interest in participating in that.
I just don't understand why that matters... Or how you drew that from my post. So like any millennial I'm going to tune you out.

Hilarious...
So you value one life as less than thousands. Alright...
Personally I value all life.

 

Are you serious? First, I didn't know we were argueing, thought we were just discussing. Second reread your post I quoted. You specifically said not all protests are STARTED by those wanting violence..

Millenial? Tune me out?

HAHAHAHHA
yep, that's the answer to solving things...try to insult me and then say you wont listen to me anymore... Wow...

We probably agree on most of this, but your need for an argument( seems familiar) is blinding the facts that we were just having a discussion, but if you want to fight, or create a fight... that's your right too I suppose...

I was just stating an opinion. Not trying to argue...
Maybe too many of us Are watching too much of this and its rubbing off?

Anyhow... Tune me out if you must...but that just shows you only want to hear what you want to hear.... yet I'm the millenial... hahaha

 

I honestly don't know what you mean by this, but don't underestimate my sense of humanity.....there's nothing hilarious about violence, there is a difference in how it's carried out though....which I think you're twisting into an unnecessary debate .