Politics Who is the best Republican president between Donald Trump and Abraham Lincoln?

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The dictionary is fine, the cut-n-paste, not so much. Here's what it meant:

    1: greatest in quantity, extent, or degree
    example: the most ability
    2: the majority of
    example: most people

    And yes, 53% is a majority so 53% qualifies as 'most'.

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  2. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Ha !...it's all Sly's fault...he f'd up the title....he's the one who "screwed the pooch". <---- I'll get banned for that one. :bgrin:
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Thank you !
     
  4. MarAzul

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    He only did that after he found he was loosing the civil war he started.
     
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    Hogwash! The Civil war started in April 1861 after confederates fired their cannons on Fort Sumter.

    Also, Lincoln was against slavery from the start and wanted to end it. Hence the ceding of the southern states and formation of the confederate states.
     
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    Is that the generic Walmart brand?

    Most of us read Merriam-Webster.

    Or is Mirriam Merriam’s illiterate cousin?
     
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    Abraham Lincoln....REAL AMERICAN
    Donald Trump......WORST PRESIDENT EVER ELECTED
     
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    Only when you’re referring to two or more groups would even a fraction more constitute ‘most’. When you’re referring to the whole of one group (such as “republicans”), ‘most’ doesn’t simply constitute a statistical majority. There are contextual nuances to the term.

    If I have a cart with 100 apples in it, and I drop 51 of them on my way to the market, I didn’t lose “most” of my apples. I lost a statistical majority, which is NOT the same as “most” in every case.

    The only reason I took the time to explain this to you is because I actually think you’re intelligent enough to understand the nuance. And I expect you may actually look further into it. I can’t say the same for the other two who are badgering me on here.
     
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    oh my, a typo. Lock me up. Are you that incapable of figuring it out?

    FACT, YOU WERE WRONG IN REGARDS TO WHAT MOST MEANS. OWN UP TO IT AND MOVE ON!

    Your idiotic argument is making you look more and more foolish.
     
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    If you have 100 apples and you give me 51 of them, then who has the most?
     
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    Me and you are TWO groups, smart guy. “Republicans” is ONE group. There are nuances to the term based on the context it’s used in and who or what you’re referring to.

    It’s over your head clearly.
     
  12. MarAzul

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    You must be right!
    That has to be why he waited so long to issue the emancipation Proclamation.
    "President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war."
    He sure as hell was not winning the war at that point.
     
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    LMAO!!! I've always thought every American adult should have the right to vote. Republicans are starting to make me doubt myself on that...
     
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    Found the conservative.
     
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    The Union won the war due to it's industrial base and the port blockades of the south....the south was never ahead of the game....Union had 2.5 million soldiers...South had 1 million..the only reason it was long and bloody was the stubbornness of the Confederacy in face of impossible odds....they also had a large population of African americans that wanted freedom watching their farms and kids. Lincoln was a great president and not a healthy man throughout the war...plagued with a bum liver from what I've read..Union had 20 states, 5 border slave holding states and the South had 11. Gorilla warfare stretched it out but the South should have surrendered within a few months of the start of the war. Would've saved a lot of lives
     
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    The confederates were never winning. Never stood a chance. They were far out numbered by the Union. They were just fucking stubborn. Thought they could start their own country and play war. They thought wrong. They were never going to win. The Confederate States were never going to be recognized.
     
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    The factual ignorance of history here sometimes is truly shocking.
     
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    And in any case, the Civil War was also fought, especially in the beginning, over economic issues. The unfair advantage the South had using slave labor was a major factor in North-South tensions, as was, of course, slavery. But to think it was a war just about slavery is inaccurate.
     
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    Grovel at the feet of your Lord and master and he might forgive you. Then repeat these words "Oh, mighty Sly, creator of this forum and highest judge of the Blazerland forum, please oh highest exultant one, I beg of you for your most merciful forgiveness. As a token for my transgression I am presenting this $100 bill to Lanny on your behalf."
     
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    Okay, that might have been 1% of the reason but let there be no doubt that the overwhelming reason was to eliminate slavery.
     

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