Politics Who is the best Republican president between Donald Trump and Abraham Lincoln?

Well now you got me there Nate. I can not intuit what you have in mind.

 

I have to assume that Marz is part of the "53%" ?

 

I am not exactly sure what the 53 is. But I am serious in rating Lincoln as the absolute worst President because of the result of his actions. More American dead than by his actions of any other President.

 

The "53%" is found in the OP. And if you truly believe what you are claiming, you are completely lost.

Do seriously think the South was justified in what they were doing?...The Union was ultimately preserved. Have you even considered what the US and the world would be like today if Lincoln had allowed the Confederacy to simply break away from the union?

 

err, these sound like your words.

Mine are a bit different. This is a great country because of it's Constitution. A Constitution modifiable by the people but not by the whim of a majority.

 

>>> What is the question here? Suceeding? Sure! Why not? It was not a functioning nation at that point. Seperation would allow them to progress to a natural improvement in the systems.

>>> Yep, Slavery ended as an viable economic system in the Western World, mostly with out war. The South would have had to do deal with what does not work. I have not doubt they would have done so just as the rest of the Western world has done.
The fact that we had a war over it rather than a natural progression is probably still being felt today. I expect the Nation would have re united, probably around the period of WWII. An much better for a natural progression.

And then perhaps we would not have that stupid 14th amendment.

 

Who the hell do you think elected the "majority"?

Not sure what angle you're spinning now but "the people" themselves don't modify The Constitution but instead they elect representatives to do their bidding, which is exactly what a "Republic" is founded on.

C'mon Marz, you're better than this, or at least I thought you were.

 

You are merely speculating what would have unfolded, and that's all you have, speculation, period.

I seriously have no idea what kind of shit you have been smoking but Lincoln is not only not the worst POTUS ever, but by most every yardstick he is widely regarded by historians and others who are far more learned than you or I, as the very BEST ever.

What part of the "UNITED States of America" don't you understand?

 

Of coarse we have a Republic. Not sure why you find need to point this out. Even so, it still takes a super majority to modify it, as it should.

 

Because you said, "A Constitution modifiable by the people ...........but........... not by the whim of a majority."

Maybe I misinterpreted your meaning ?...if so, I yield.

 

>>> Most people do disagree. That is fine if you do.

 

Thank you.
The interposer of Representatives works best for a nation. Even though it probably is not best for a tribe.

I cringe now that I think of my representative. I just today read the newsletter the dufus sent out.

 

>>> Oh horseshit! WTF are you going on about now? Who said they should be part of the country?
If we had not gone to war with the South, we would not have needed the 14th amendment. Somewhere along the way, the 13th is needed but not the 14th.

>> Right! Wtf?

 

umm, Alright! I will take this as some sort of agreement.

 

Quotes the constitution when it's logical to do so.
Ignores it when someone quotes it to him.
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