Who Is The Most Underated Defensive Player?

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  1. Bobcats

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    Trenton Hassell is a great defender who rarely gets mentioned as one of the best perimeter defenders.
     
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    Tyronn Lue anybody?

    The only time I ever heard him get mentioned was when he shutdown A.I during the Finals, and he did a hell of a job against one of the hardest players to defend in the League.

    You guys are right about Josh Howard though, I didn't even know he was a good defender until now!

    Also, I don't think Iggy is underrated. He gets a lot of praise for his defense.. that's what he's most known for.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Trenton Hassell is a great defender who rarely gets mentioned as one of the best perimeter defenders.</div>
    [​IMG] i was just moving to this page to mention him
     
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    i'm surprised no one mentioned him yet, shawn marion. IMO he's the most underrated player in the league. he practically averages a double double, he plays great D, is a great rebounder, is a great stealer, yet no one even talks about him being an all star. he was like 4th in the league in steals per game, and he was 3rd in the league in rebounds per game, and 18th in the league with blocks per game, yet he still doesnt make an all defensive team?
     
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    I think Jerome Williams is a very underatted man to man defender, although he gets praise for being a terrific defender off the ball goin for steals and saving tipped balls, NBA analysts say that he is not good at gaurding man to man and causes more negatives than positives taking gambles.

    Give me a break, more often then not he gets those balls and that is a big bonus which sways momentum, especially at his home court where he is always a fan favourite, also when he was with the raptors he did and excellent job playing larger PF's and could stay with the SF's, I think his man to man D is underatted.

    Bell, Lue and Hassell are the top three guys that can be found above that I completely forgot about.
     
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    Josh Howard? Tmac DESTROYED the whole Mavericks team including Howard [​IMG]

    Cuttino Mobley: Good lock down defender, can give even Kobe fits. Consistently outplays Vince and shuts him down.

    Tracy Mcrady: Don't want to sound like a homer but for somebody who Magic fans says slacks off, he sure did have Dirk in handcuffs. He played like that the whole season, so he is definitley deserves a nod.

    Ricky Davis: Quick and very physical with his opponent. Saw him shut down Steve Francis one time (not saying much) but he's nice with his defense.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Tyronn Lue anybody?

    The only time I ever heard him get mentioned was when he shutdown A.I during the Finals, and he did a hell of a job against one of the hardest players to defend in the League.</div>
    When is the last time you could shut down a player by holding him to 35.6 points per game. AI had one bad game that whole Finals series scoring a "mere" 23 points but still it seems as if Lue gets more credit for supposedly shutting AI down while AI did his thing the whole series, where do people get this theory? Lue never shut AI down at all, AI dropped 48 in Game 1, 23 in Game 2, 35 in games 3 and 4, and 37 in game 5.Enough said.

    One of the most underrated defenders is Trenton Hassel, he is rarely talked about but he is one of the better defensive players in the league. Rasheed Wallace is also underrated, and Chauncey Billups is an overrated defender.
     
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    Howard is kinda overrated, cause Dallas doesn't have much defenders, being the only defender is going to make you look good

    lol @ Tyrone Lue, basically every PG in the league I've seen scored atleast over 20 against him

    Davis is a lazy defender.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When is the last time you could shut down a player by holding him to 35.6 points per game. AI had one bad game that whole Finals series scoring a "mere" 23 points but still it seems as if Lue gets more credit for supposedly shutting AI down while AI did his thing the whole series, where do people get this theory? Lue never shut AI down at all, AI dropped 48 in Game 1, 23 in Game 2, 35 in games 3 and 4, and 37 in game 5.Enough said.</div>

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    My pick would have to be Eric Snow. He's not the most underrated defensive player, but he doesn't get as much credit as he deserves. I'd say he's in the Top 5 among defensive PG's.
     
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    ^Yup, even Kobe said Snow was his toughest competition. I would say it has to be Eric Snow, too.
     
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    Andre Iguodala,I've only seen Sixers fans praising his defensive skills.
    He had a streak of like 5 games where he kept players under 30%-35% shooting,including players like Kobe and LeBron.
    Kid can do alot more than just dunk,next season just look him to score more as his brother won't get off the case if he doesn't [​IMG]
     
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    Another guy I think is underrated when it comes to defense is Morris Peterson. He came from a great program which was Michigan State and he has been a good defensive player ever since he's been in the league. It's just that he doesn't get a lot of exposure because he plays for the Raptors and they suck right now.
     
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    Andre Iguodala and Mickael Pietrus, both very similar and both underrrated. I havent seen much of Iguodala but Pietrus absolutely made Michael Redd his bitch, he also did very good on Kobe.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Another guy I think is underrated when it comes to defense is Morris Peterson. He came from a great program which was Michigan State and he has been a good defensive player ever since he's been in the league. It's just that he doesn't get a lot of exposure because he plays for the Raptors and they suck right now.</div>

    Mo and Graham that should be something.
     
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    Tyronn Lue isn't mentioned as a good defensive player because he isn't that good. While he is quick, and did a "good" job against Iverson, against other PG's, he's mainly undersized, and also too weak, and is not the same defensive player.

    Someone mentioned Andre Iguodala as not getting enough praise outside of Sixer fans. That is not true at all, their's a reason they compared him to Pippen, not just because of his versatility, but also his defensive abilities. Iguodala is given props by many as a good defender, and a player who has great defensive potential.


    ...and underatted defender is Raja Bell, he's a guy that frustrates a lot of offensive players, and while he's given some recognition, it's not really much.

    Shane Battier is also a player who is a very good defender, and IMO the most underatted because he's not given props for it. He's the ultimate role player, but he's more than just a gu that hustles on defense, he can play very good defense.

    Earl Watson is another guy I like defensively, he frustrates opposing players, is quick, strong, and puts the effort on defense. He's not really mentioned for his defense, but it is good.

    Joe Johnson is a guy no one notes for his defense, even before Phoenix became a super offense team. JJ is strong athletic, quick, and he can guard 2/3's very well and effectively. He's not a shut down defender, but he's definately a good man to man defender.

    Lastly, Mickael Pietrus is a guy who can be a wonderful defender, and is already a very good one. He has the athleticism, defensive mentality, and as he gets more experience, can really be a shut down defender.
     
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    Raja Bell
     
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    As a Nets fan i'd have to say Jacque Vaughn. Last year he guarded a lot of off guards, and if you watch him he's like a little pest on the floor. He stays stuck to his opposition. I'd say he's almost as good a defender as Lindsay Hunter, but without his shooting ability.
     
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    Brevin Knight. That guy can stick anyone! No one really talks about him much though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When is the last time you could shut down a player by holding him to 35.6 points per game. AI had one bad game that whole Finals series scoring a "mere" 23 points but still it seems as if Lue gets more credit for supposedly shutting AI down while AI did his thing the whole series, where do people get this theory? Lue never shut AI down at all, AI dropped 48 in Game 1, 23 in Game 2, 35 in games 3 and 4, and 37 in game 5.Enough said.</div>

    All while shooting an amazing 40% and 28% from the 3 point line! Now, I went over the line saying he shut A.I down, but Iversons' percentages weren't good at all. Even in the other playoff games, which means no matter what, he'll score in bunches because he's taking all the shots. Tyronn did his best, and was the only one who could slow him down. Stats don't tell the whole story now.

    Andre Iguodala is not an underrated defender! He is praised by so many in the leauge and his strength is always being mentioned by his defensive ability.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">All while shooting an amazing 40% and 28% from the 3 point line! Now, I went over the line saying he shut A.I down, but Iversons' percentages weren't good at all. Even in the other playoff games, which means no matter what, he'll score in bunches because he's taking all the shots. Tyronn did his best, and was the only one who could slow him down. Stats don't tell the whole story now.

    Andre Iguodala is not an underrated defender! He is praised by so many in the leauge and his strength is always being mentioned by his defensive ability.</div>


    Iverson always shoots 40%, lol
     

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