Mario Williams said he watches Freeney and Peppers play and takes things from their games. lol just using stuff from his own words. never seen him play besides his clips.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 14 2006, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mario Williams said he watches Freeney and Peppers play and takes things from their games. lol just using stuff from his own words. never seen him play besides his clips.</div>He takes a lot of plays off. At least he did vs FSU. He'll take 4 or 5 plays off, and then explode for a couple plays, and then rest some more.
freeney is basicly a god. no one in this draft compares to him. Not even being a homer here. Williams is alot like peppers. all the talent in the world.....but doesn't come close to playing with it.
I'm going to be pissed if the Packers draft A.J. Hawk. A Buckeye-turned-Packer would be the worst thing, b/c I'd have to hate his guts after liking him on the Buckeyes.
I have heard a lot of hype about cutler but iono why i've never seen a game of his and don't even know what college he went to i mean i could be wrong but i think he is gonna be a bust in this league
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RBushforPrez @ Apr 15 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have heard a lot of hype about cutler but iono why i've never seen a game of his and don't even know what college he went to i mean i could be wrong but i think he is gonna be a bust in this league</div>He went to Vanderbilt, a team that is traditionally the doormat of the SEC and single-handedly turned them into a respectable team. He's got some mechanics issues but hes a smart guy and will fix them out IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 16 2006, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RBushforPrez @ Apr 15 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have heard a lot of hype about cutler but iono why i've never seen a game of his and don't even know what college he went to i mean i could be wrong but i think he is gonna be a bust in this league</div>He went to Vanderbilt, a team that is traditionally the doormat of the SEC and single-handedly turned them into a respectable team. He's got some mechanics issues but hes a smart guy and will fix them out IMO.</div>Define "respectable."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Apr 16 2006, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He means a competitive team, a team that isn't completely in the shits lol</div>Do you think the Packers will draft him?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 16 2006, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 16 2006, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RBushforPrez @ Apr 15 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have heard a lot of hype about cutler but iono why i've never seen a game of his and don't even know what college he went to i mean i could be wrong but i think he is gonna be a bust in this league</div>He went to Vanderbilt, a team that is traditionally the doormat of the SEC and single-handedly turned them into a respectable team. He's got some mechanics issues but hes a smart guy and will fix them out IMO.</div>Define "respectable."</div>I would say a 5-6 against an extremely tough schedule including LSU, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee is pretty respectable. Especially when they beat Tennessee, took florida to overtime and were competitive with Georgia well into the game even though they have about 1/30th of the talent is pretty damn good.To KO18, probably not.....they will probably give Rodgers 2 years to prove he can be a Franchise QB.
[quote name='JHair' post='41100' date='Apr 16 2006, 09:43 AM']He means a competitive team, a team that isn't completely in the shits lol[/quote]In which case, no, Jay Cutler did not make them respectable.[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='41105' date='Apr 16 2006, 09:47 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='41095' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:40 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='41056' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:01 AM'][quote name='RBushforPrez' post='41005' date='Apr 15 2006, 10:46 PM']I have heard a lot of hype about cutler but iono why i've never seen a game of his and don't even know what college he went to i mean i could be wrong but i think he is gonna be a bust in this league[/quote]He went to Vanderbilt, a team that is traditionally the doormat of the SEC and single-handedly turned them into a respectable team. He's got some mechanics issues but hes a smart guy and will fix them out IMO.[/quote]Define "respectable."[/quote]I would say a 5-6 against an extremely tough schedule including LSU, Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee is pretty respectable. Especially when they beat Tennessee, took florida to overtime and were competitive with Georgia well into the game even though they have about 1/30th of the talent is pretty damn good.To KO18, probably not.....they will probably give Rodgers 2 years to prove he can be a Franchise QB.[/quote]Is a sub-.500 team in the NFL, regardless of schedule, considered "respectable?"
Teams had to respect Vanderbilt's ability because of Cutler's passing.BTW, Jay Cutler had to throw to WR that aren't even NFL quality. In the NFL, he'll have solid, if not "good" WRs to throw to. Considering that, 5-6 is respectable since he's not surrounded by top talent.NFL teams are chock full of the top talent FROM the NCAA. Most NCAA teams don't even have NFL talent. One star can provide a respectable season in the NCAA because of talent differentials. One star will get crushed in the NFL since teams are more balanced in terms of talent.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 16 2006, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Teams had to respect Vanderbilt's ability because of Cutler's passing.BTW, Jay Cutler had to throw to WR that aren't even NFL quality. In the NFL, he'll have solid, if not "good" WRs to throw to. Considering that, 5-6 is respectable since he's not surrounded by top talent.NFL teams are chock full of the top talent FROM the NCAA. Most NCAA teams don't even have NFL talent. One star can provide a respectable season in the NCAA because of talent differentials. One star will get crushed in the NFL since teams are more balanced in terms of talent.</div>Wake ForestArkansasMississippiRichmondTennesseeExcuse me for not thinking of a team who's highlight Win of the year is beating Tennessee.... another sub-.500 team. That's more like the shitty beating the shitty. This is a team that lost to the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders.With 3 minutes remaining, Cutler has the ball but can't drive down the field to beat the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders. But why would he be able to? His 59.1 Completion percentage and 1 TD vs 1 INT ratio vs that stellar D of a team who finished with a sub-.500 record in the Sun Belt conference must have been tough.
Straight from ESPN.Vanderbilt was that close last season. If not for a disappointing upset loss to Middle Tennessee State, the Commodores would have been playing in a bowl. One of their three conference wins came over Tennessee, and they had Florida on the ropes in Gainesville before a weak excessive celebration call by the officials kept them from going for the win. The sobering reality, though, is that the Jay Cutler era is over. He was the SEC's most talented quarterback last season and willed the Commodores to several wins. Sophomore Chris Nickson and redshirt freshman Mackenzi Adams are the top candidates to replace Cutler. Whoever wins the job will have one of the best receivers in the conference to throw to in sophomore Earl Bennett.6 Wins would have put them in bowl game contention. That Eastern Tennessee loss was definately a huge choke though.Cutler single handedly almost took Vanderbilt into a bowl game.Vernon Davis is in the same situation. He made a crapload of plays but on a sub-par .500 team. Teams aren't holding anything against him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 16 2006, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wake ForestArkansasMississippiRichmondTennesseeExcuse me for not thinking of a team who's highlight Win of the year is beating Tennessee.... another sub-.500 team. That's more like the shitty beating the shitty. This is a team that lost to the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders.With 3 minutes remaining, Cutler has the ball but can't drive down the field to beat the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders. But why would he be able to? His 59.1 Completion percentage and 1 TD vs 1 INT ratio vs that stellar D of a team who finished with a sub-.500 record in the Sun Belt conference must have been tough.</div>Another person who clearly didnt watch the Middle Tennessee State game or spend more then 30 seconds researching it.Jay Cutler "Can't drive down the field to beat Middle Tennessee", right?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Vanderbilt at 2:181st and 10 at VAN 1 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 7 yards to the Vandy 82nd and 3 at VAN 8 Jay Cutler pass complete to Erik Davis for 10 yards to the Vandy 18 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at VAN 18 Jay Cutler pass complete to Earl Bennett for 11 yards to the Vandy 29 for a 1ST down. 3rd and 5 at VAN 29 Jay Cutler pass complete to Erik Davis for 9 yards to the Vandy 38 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at VAN 38 Jay Cutler pass complete to Earl Bennett for 7 yards to the Vandy 45. 2nd and 3 at VAN 45 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 11 yards to the MTSU 44 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at MTSU 44 Timeout MIDDLE TENN, clock 01:15. 1st and 10 at MTSU 44 Middle Tenn penalty 15 yard 12 men on the field accepted, no play. 1st and 10 at MTSU 29 Jay Cutler pass incomplete to Earl Bennett. 2nd and 10 at MTSU 29 Jay Cutler rush for 3 yards to the MTSU 26. 3rd and 7 at MTSU 26 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 7 yards to the MTSU 19 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at MTSU 19 Jay Cutler pass incomplete. 2nd and 10 at MTSU 19 Jay Cutler 36 yard field goal BLOCKED.2nd and 10 at MTSU 19 End of 4th Quarter</div>He drove all the way down the field, from his own 1 yard line, yet his team lost because the kicker on Vanderbilt had his Field Goal Blocked. But It was Jay Cutler's fault he lost that game, right? I mean, he only went 7 for 9 passing for 62 yards with the game on the line, even though he was all the way back at his one yard line.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 16 2006, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why does it say Jay Cutler's field goal blocked?lol is it a hidden talent?</div>lol. I guess its just the way ESPN lists Blocked Field Goals.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 16 2006, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 16 2006, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wake ForestArkansasMississippiRichmondTennesseeExcuse me for not thinking of a team who's highlight Win of the year is beating Tennessee.... another sub-.500 team. That's more like the shitty beating the shitty. This is a team that lost to the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders.With 3 minutes remaining, Cutler has the ball but can't drive down the field to beat the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders. But why would he be able to? His 59.1 Completion percentage and 1 TD vs 1 INT ratio vs that stellar D of a team who finished with a sub-.500 record in the Sun Belt conference must have been tough.</div>Another person who clearly didnt watch the Middle Tennessee State game or spend more then 30 seconds researching it.Jay Cutler "Can't drive down the field to beat Middle Tennessee", right?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Vanderbilt at 2:181st and 10 at VAN 1 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 7 yards to the Vandy 82nd and 3 at VAN 8 Jay Cutler pass complete to Erik Davis for 10 yards to the Vandy 18 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at VAN 18 Jay Cutler pass complete to Earl Bennett for 11 yards to the Vandy 29 for a 1ST down. 3rd and 5 at VAN 29 Jay Cutler pass complete to Erik Davis for 9 yards to the Vandy 38 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at VAN 38 Jay Cutler pass complete to Earl Bennett for 7 yards to the Vandy 45. 2nd and 3 at VAN 45 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 11 yards to the MTSU 44 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at MTSU 44 Timeout MIDDLE TENN, clock 01:15. 1st and 10 at MTSU 44 Middle Tenn penalty 15 yard 12 men on the field accepted, no play. 1st and 10 at MTSU 29 Jay Cutler pass incomplete to Earl Bennett. 2nd and 10 at MTSU 29 Jay Cutler rush for 3 yards to the MTSU 26. 3rd and 7 at MTSU 26 Jay Cutler pass complete to Dustin Dunning for 7 yards to the MTSU 19 for a 1ST down. 1st and 10 at MTSU 19 Jay Cutler pass incomplete. 2nd and 10 at MTSU 19 Jay Cutler 36 yard field goal BLOCKED.2nd and 10 at MTSU 19 End of 4th Quarter</div>He drove all the way down the field, from his own 1 yard line, yet his team lost because the kicker on Vanderbilt had his Field Goal Blocked. But It was Jay Cutler's fault he lost that game, right? I mean, he only went 7 for 9 passing for 62 yards with the game on the line, even though he was all the way back at his one yard line. </div>With 3 minutes he should have scored a TD, he obviously couldn't run the "2" minute offense properly.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='41320' date='Apr 17 2006, 08:20 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='41143' date='Apr 16 2006, 12:17 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='41135' date='Apr 16 2006, 10:37 AM']Wake ForestArkansasMississippiRichmondTennesseeExcuse me for not thinking of a team who's highlight Win of the year is beating Tennessee.... another sub-.500 team. That's more like the shitty beating the shitty. This is a team that lost to the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders.With 3 minutes remaining, Cutler has the ball but can't drive down the field to beat the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders. But why would he be able to? His 59.1 Completion percentage and 1 TD vs 1 INT ratio vs that stellar D of a team who finished with a sub-.500 record in the Sun Belt conference must have been tough.[/quote]Another person who clearly didnt watch the Middle Tennessee State game or spend more then 30 seconds researching it.Jay Cutler "Can't drive down the field to beat Middle Tennessee", right? He drove all the way down the field, from his own 1 yard line, yet his team lost because the kicker on Vanderbilt had his Field Goal Blocked. But It was Jay Cutler's fault he lost that game, right? I mean, he only went 7 for 9 passing for 62 yards with the game on the line, even though he was all the way back at his one yard line. [/quote]With 3 minutes he should have scored a TD, he obviously couldn't run the "2" minute offense properly.[/quote]It was a 2 point game, a Field Goal would have won the Game for Vanderbilt.Any coach in the NFL or NCAA would tell their Quarterback "Just get us in Field Goal range and We'll take it from there" and thats exactly what he did.Dont you think you are grasping at straws now to knock Cutler man? Give it a rest.
