Who should be our starting frontcourt?

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Who should start at power forward and center?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2015.
  1. Vonleh/Davis

    11.9%
  2. Vonleh/Leonard

    2.4%
  3. Vonleh/Plumlee

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  4. Davis/Leonard

    35.7%
  5. Davis/Plumlee

    9.5%
  6. Leonard/Plumlee

    40.5%
  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Always need a backup. If they became that killer starting duo Davis would be able to backup either spot.

    I'm really not sure about Plumlee long term. He can dribble but do we really need that from a center? His defense isn't great. Obviously can't shoot so have to be careful who he shares the court with. An interesting piece but I'm not sure if he is the type of player who plays on a second round playoff team.
     
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    I do think either Davis or Plumlee will be traded. Maybe not this season, but eventually. I suspect Plumlee will have the higher trade value, so I expect he'll be the one traded at some point. If Vonleh pans out and Meyers continues on his trajectory I think a Meyers/Vonleh/Davis front court is very good. But first Vonleh needs to make BIG strides in his game, and Meyers needs to prove he can play an NBA season and not just half a Playoff series.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The thing is, I think the same thing could be said about Meyers. He never had a regular spot in the rotation last year, and outside of a nice showing the playoffs, has he really shown that he can be consistent? I think Meyers might be a little bit further along than Vonleh in terms of development, but not by much, and I think it's possible that he's in too big of a role too soon as well.
     
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    Difference being that this is, ostensibly, Meyers 4th (?) season and Vonleh's 1st season. It's time to throw Meyers out there and see what happens. It's FAR too soon to do that with Vonleh.
     
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    Hey welcome to the Aminu as starting PF bandwagon!
     
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    Boooooo!
     
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    I think all of them can be interchangeable and I think all of them should get around 20-28 minutes a night.
     
  8. riverman

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    I went with Leonard and Davis...I think Davis will benefit Leonard's game more than Plumlee and Vonleh will look to score more with Plumlee
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I think Vonleh is the future of the 4 position (well, he's the guy with the highest chance currently on the roster at least) so maybe he doesn't start now, but at some point in the year I suspect Vonleh/Davis will be our best front-court duo.
     
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    I am all for them developing this slowly. Vonleh can learn things from almost every forward on this team. He has shown to be productive in limited minutes so continue to ease him in.

    I really like Leonard/Vonleh because of the dual inside out game, but the quickness of a Davis/Vonleh lineup is very effective and fun to watch too.
     
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    I'd actually like to see that sooner than later
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Offensively that would probably work, but defense seems like it would be lacking. Vonleh still has untapped growth (hopefully) but I'm not sure I see him ever being a guy anybody would call "hard-nosed" and Myers . . . well, just look at him.
     
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    I think Meyers can be just fine defensively as a C - I think he's much more suited to defending Cs than PFs. And Vonleh won't be any worse than LMA defensively - he's already shown willingness to leave his man to help protect the basket (even if he was a little late on that LAL game-winning dunk...but that was entirely Johnson's fault).
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    We should cut that guy!
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Where's the option for Vonleh/Alexander? Oh wait, it's currently only 2015. Vonleh doesn't blossom until 2016 and become an all-star until 2018. Alexander hasn't won his 6th man of the year award yet. Traveling back in time like this sometime gets confusing for me.

    Alexander1.jpg Vonleh1.jpg

    #DepthOfYoungBigs
     
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  16. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Oh don't worry, that pairing will most likely be on next year's preseason poll.
     
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    LaMarcus was good at guarding stretch 4's and even guards on the perimeter he got switched on. Hey believe me I have plenty of things to bitch about with LaMarcus but after watching Meyers try to "guard" Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers at the 3pt line last night I have some more respect for LMA. Can Vonleh be as good as LMA on stretch 4's? Perhaps, but he hasn't shown me that yet and I suspect it'll take him awhile. He might never be as good as LMA in that specific area.
     
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    Cliff can rebound, and get put backs, but how is his help defense? His rim protection? Those are very important for a center and from the tiny I've seen or heard real major concerns with his game. He basically sounds like a similar but tiny bit less athletic Thomas Robinson. Hope he becomes more but sounds like a major project right now.
     
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    Agreed it is way too early to early to put Alexander in the mix, but I'm glad we have him. IF he stays a Blazer he may always come off the bench behind Leonard and Vonleh, but he did average 3.0 blocks/40 in college with an offensive rating of 118 and defensive rating of 95 (I know those are team dependent, but it is the best we have at this point).

    Even though Robinson was 0.5" taller, Alexander has a 3.5" standing reach advantage.

    My hope for Alexander is that will be a rougher, smarter version of Robinson. I don't think Alexander will be trying to pull of spin moves and the like. He seems to know where his bread will be buttered and loves to rebound and provide weak side D. Could be all the Robinson wasn't.

    Maybe a Reggie Evans meets Kenyon Martin guy
     
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    We'll have to disagree on LMA being good at guarding guards on the perimeter. I think LMA was an above-average defender when defending HIS man, and I don't expect Vonleh to be even half that good this season. But Vonleh has already shown willingness to play team-defense, which is more than LMA ever did - so in that one aspect he's already ahead of LMA. But I don't want him or Meyers guarding anyone out on the perimeter - it's why I've been beating the '"Meyers is our C" drum since the beginning of summer.

    Those cases where Meyers/Davis were guarding Pierce are issues for the coach. And in at least one of those scenarios Meyers was the only guy to make an attempt at getting a hand in Pierce's face, even though he got caught up in a good pick - I gotta give him an A for effort!
     
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