You're comparing a 20 year old to a 24 year old, and Barnes went 6/7 FGs in their last match up and had 3 or 4 dunks in that game, at least one of which was a blow by of Singler in a half court set. Singler looks like a decent role player but he really isn't a starter if your team is any good. Would be a nice bench player though and I like him. Aldridge is a difficult situation to deal with because he has so much more ability than these other guys that are being discussed, but he chooses instead to play like a wimp and it brings his effectiveness down to their level. I'd probably lean toward holding onto him and trying to get a coach who can get the most out of him or hope that if the team is more successful then he will start doing the dirty work that helps teams win. That said, if you think even low post scoring is dirty work then it is a big red flag.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/monrogr01/shooting/2013/ Oh and looking at this shot chart; he's 30-32% with any shot Monroe takes that isn't at the rim. And he almost shoots 50% of those shots outside of the rim. That is god awful for a big man!
Okay sounds fair, but I'm not one that has endorsed that we need to toss max at a player. Then why use the per argument before? But you want Monroe that shoots 30-32% anywhere outside of the rim. How does that help? Then you must factor that Monroe is a terrible defender too. It's a mistake man!
Except LaMonster is gone, he's not going inside and he's taking a ton of low efficiency jumpers. All we've been talking about is this season, if you wanna overlook the down year LMA is having and bring up his best years then why not look at Monroe's too? Come on, neither player is a defensive juggernaut, they're both playing for bad defensive teams. The Pistons as a team have the 23rd worst defensive efficiency, 107.7pts per 100possessions. With Monroe on the court they give up 106.1, and without him they give up even more to the tune of 110.2. The Blazers are 25th, giving up 108.8 with Aldridge and 110.4 without him.
I don't believe that for a minute. His monster numbers were just last season. He is on a new team with a new coach. Stotts has tried using Aldridge like dirk; which is a huge mistake. I suspect he will have good number years next season. Also, pair him with a decent defensive center and he should be much much better. Compared to Monroe, Aldridge is much much better. And Monroe is god awful from anywhere outside of the rim. You want a 30% perimeter replacement for Aldridge? Monroe shoots almost 50% of his shots at a 30% rate. Ouch!!!
I don't want LMA or Monroe to be taking that many shots away from the rim, that's the point, that I prefer a big getting most of his FGA at the rim. At least Monroe is only taking 43% of his shots away from the rim to LMA's 79%!
Dude Monroe is shooting 33% from 5 feet from the basket! Do you understand those are really fucking close. Aldridge is shooting a high% from that area. And you say you don't want Monroe shooting there; yet he has a history of shooting almost 50% of his shots from there.
If we're talking about just a year ago then why not bring in Monroe's numbers from that same time frame? Because even going there Monroe was still comparable, they're both having down years, but you wanna give LMA a pass. I don't think Aldridge is a much much better defender at all, they're both leading their teams in minutes for big men and their teams are 23rd and 25th in the league defensively. And see my other post on Monroe taking outside shots, fact is him taking 43% of his shots away from the rim is a knock, but so is Aldridge taking 79% of his from out there too. I'll take the guy taking 57% of his shots at the rim, to the guy only taking 21% of his shots at the rim.
How are they similar? I looked it up and Aldridge scoring and efficiency was much better. Aldridge needs to bring that number down. I agree with that statement; but the ability to drain them is also a plus. But how much of that is blamed on Aldridge or on stotts. It's pretty obvious that stotts tried using Aldridge like dirk. That was a huge mistake. I've seen those shots go down. His 10ft fade away isn't a bad shot, IMO. And keep in mind that he gets a lot of those perimeter shots on a last second shot attempt. That is the worst shot to take, but he is usually asked to take them. I like that Aldridge is up for the challenge. A good sign of a team player.
That's a situation that the eye test and numbers don't come close to matching up. I don't watch a whole lot of pistons games but when i do i dont see monroe even try on that side of the floor. LA does a heck of a lot more and shows a lot more effort then Monroe. Go talk to pistons fans or read articles their beat riders put out and they blast Monroe for his D and lack of effort on that end of the court. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
I've never read reports blasting on aldridges d. It's more about playing soft around the basket. You know taking too many outside shots. In terms of defense; well Aldridge leads this team in blocks and I would argue is our best one on one defender. How many times have we seen stotts double the man Aldridge is defending?
I said nothing about LA being a bad defender or people writitng that, was talking Monroe their mags. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Its always so silly to bring up Monroe's non existant D. When Aldridge was 22 he didn't play D either, shit he's still not good at defense.
Aldridge averaged 18pts/G when he was 22. I wouldn't really say Monroe is better. And you're right about his defense. Despite what some posters have said, Monroe's been getting called out for his defense his whole career the way J.J. Hickson and Meyers Leonard get called out by us. This is why DRtg is a joke and only used by low-information posters. Moving Aldridge out for Monroe is basically a bad idea. Good thread.
How has Stotts used Aldridge like Dirk? Thats a crock of shit. Since when does Aldridge get the ball near the 3point line, face up and create using dribble and quick first steps? Never.
This thread is literally retarded. Aldridge shot selection percentages: Jump: 74% Close: 21% Inside: 26% Monroe shot selection percentages: Jump: 31% Close 61% Inside 26%
Oh an I Dont know what games you guys are watching, but Aldridge gives the least effort on D on the team. He's so terrible at rotations sometimes it's ridiculous. He stands there and watches. If you haven't seen it, you don't pay attention.
