Who's better than us now (in the West)?

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Wonder if any teams' GMs are calculating that Dame will be pushing for a trade by midseason?
 
THE HCP said:
I guess you haven’t seen OUR roster…… standby…..
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To be honest this entire thread is a little crazy and you referring to seeing our roster is crazy and presumptuous as well. We haven't seen Dame healthy in a long time but he's still been one of the top 10 in the league. The last time we saw Ant he was dominating. Grant has shown that he can be a fantastic defender and we know that he has skills at every level on offense, just not enough to carry one of the worst rosters in the league. Nurk is Nurk but if somehow he is consistently engaged and willing to accept a role he's fantastic as an old school big. At SF we will have Hart, Nas and possibly Sharpe competing for the starting spot and the other two coming off the bench. We acquired a key contributor to the reigning champions in our back court off of the bench. Justise seems like he can contribute a lot off of the bench as well at 3 or 4. I'm not a huge Eubanks fan, so we do have a hole at backup 5 but we can go small like a lot of successful teams.

I'm not saying we're "taking it to the limit" or at the "peak" of the game like Joe said we were going for but we are a playoff team. Minny just fucked themselves going with twin towers in 2022. The Warriors bench is getting picked apart (not that we'll be better than them). The Mavs got worse. The Jazz might be tearing the whole thing down. Both NOLA and Memphis have questions to answer before they're better than us when healthy. So yes there are four teams that are for sure going to be better than us in the West if healthy but after that... there are a lot of questions and I think this roster is at least better than we've had in the last few seasons.
 
NO ONE's better than us MFers. Ever! We're the Portland Freakin' Trailblazers. We now have 2 Superstars, Dame & Mr. Sharpe. Look out cruel world.
 
blazerkor said:
To be honest this entire thread is a little crazy and you referring to seeing our roster is crazy and presumptuous as well. We haven't seen Dame healthy in a long time but he's still been one of the top 10 in the league. The last time we saw Ant he was dominating. Grant has shown that he can be a fantastic defender and we know that he has skills at every level on offense, just not enough to carry one of the worst rosters in the league. Nurk is Nurk but if somehow he is consistently engaged and willing to accept a role he's fantastic as an old school big. At SF we will have Hart, Nas and possibly Sharpe competing for the starting spot and the other two coming off the bench. We acquired a key contributor to the reigning champions in our back court off of the bench. Justise seems like he can contribute a lot off of the bench as well at 3 or 4. I'm not a huge Eubanks fan, so we do have a hole at backup 5 but we can go small like a lot of successful teams.

I'm not saying we're "taking it to the limit" or at the "peak" of the game like Joe said we were going for but we are a playoff team. Minny just fucked themselves going with twin towers in 2022. The Warriors bench is getting picked apart (not that we'll be better than them). The Mavs got worse. The Jazz might be tearing the whole thing down. Both NOLA and Memphis have questions to answer before they're better than us when healthy. So yes there are four teams that are for sure going to be better than us in the West if healthy but after that... there are a lot of questions and I think this roster is at least better than we've had in the last few seasons.
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Yeah, I'm approaching optimism.

Goddamn, just writing that reminds me I'm a homer. But I mean it. We have a lot going for us.
 
tykendo said:
Don't give in to the Pouty Puss rhetoric.
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The Gary Payton II threw me a little, but I've come around on him. We are doing our thing. Someone's got a vision, whether it's Cronin or Dame or Billups or a combination of the three whatever, I'm ready to see it in action...

I love the forum, but really there is no knowing how a team is going to play. We talk and talk, but really it's about a team meshing. I didn't pick Boston to be in the Finals, nor Phoenix the year before. Shit can happen. We are solid solid in 4 of 5 starting positions and just drafted a future Hall of Famer. Anything can happen.
 
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Propagandist said:
Yeah, I'm approaching optimism.

Goddamn, just writing that reminds me I'm a homer. But I mean it. We have a lot going for us.
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We have a lot going for us to be as good as we've been in the Dame era but we don't have anything going for us as far as actually contending for a title this upcoming season without a very unseen move. So people that are saying that we're going to miss the playoffs are jumping to some big conclusions but obviously we're not winning anything of consequence,
 
blazerkor said:
We have a lot going for us to be as good as we've been in the Dame era but we don't have anything going for us as far as actually contending for a title this upcoming season without a very unseen move. So people that are saying that we're going to miss the playoffs are jumping to some big conclusions but obviously we're not winning anything of consequence,
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We have to start somewhere though. The goal of next season should be to strike fear. Our squad should be competitive against anyone. There'll obviously be growing pains. But coming out of next year, I don't expect the waffling from Dame and whatever else; I think we will be locked in and dangerous. A lot depends on Ant, Nas, and Sharpe, but that's okay. Those guys are super talented.
 
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Warriors
Clippers
Suns
Grizzlies
Wolves
Pelicans
Nuggets
Mavs
Lakers

It's a much shorter list of who's worse than us, Pathetic, four rebuilding teams and the Kings;

Kings
Jazz
Thunder
Rockets
Spurs
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Warriors
Clippers
Suns
Grizzlies
Wolves
Pelicans
Nuggets
Mavs
Lakers

It's a much shorter list of who's worse than us, Pathetic, four rebuilding teams and the Kings;

Kings
Jazz
Thunder
Rockets
Spurs
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Kings might not be worse
Jazz are right now
Thunder has a nice young core
Rockets have a really nice young core
Spurs are worse
 
Mediocre Man said:
Kings might not be worse
Jazz are right now
Thunder has a nice young core
Rockets have a really nice young core
Spurs are worse
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Jazz Thunder Rockets all have better assets in terms of rostered players and picks.

So really we have the worse position to build a contender than all but 2 teams in the west, and that's with an all NBA player. So Pathetic.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Jazz Thunder Rockets all have better assets in terms of rostered players and picks.

So really we have the worse position to build a contender than all but 2 teams in the west, and that's with an all NBA player. So Pathetic.
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Yep. Start the fuck over
 
Come playoff time 2023, the team with fewest injuries will emerge ad WC champs.

simple as this.

If Clippers are missing KW, PG, etc. (And judging by recent history this could happen)….

If AD is (again) sidelined for the Lakers…

If Nurkic goes down….

something can be said of every team in the West. So
Depth will come into play. Chemistry (its still a team sport) will be critical.

summary

if Portland can stay healthy and find a high level of chemistry, I think we have a perfectly reasonable shot at making the playoffs and advancing. How far depends upon the injury scenarios of the other teams.

weaknesses:
1. Power Forward that is a mean, tough, s.o.b. Hmmm, I heard Miles from Charlotte may be an available free agent?

2. Back-up center. Has Cousins signed with a team yet?
 
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The Blazers are improved...but it might only move them a couple spots up in the Playoff standings and as of now, not sure it is high enough to stay out of the Play-In.
 
Truth is nobody knows shit.
What are we basing any of this on?
Names?
Last year?
Each year is different, the league is way too talented top to bottom to know anything without one ingredient.......
Chemistry.
All the analytics in the world cannot factor that. It is truly the single most important aspect.
 
Rosters aren't even finalized yet so I don't see how anyone could project the top seeds in the league at all yet. That's talk for around Xmas time when we've actually seen some basketball
 
Wade Garrett said:
Truth is nobody knows shit.
What are we basing any of this on?
Names?
Last year?
Each year is different, the league is way too talented top to bottom to know anything without one ingredient.......
Chemistry.
All the analytics in the world cannot factor that. It is truly the single most important aspect.
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With chemistry this squad could rocket up from 10th in the West to possibly even 8th!
 
I think there's a lot to like with what the Blazers have done and what they have.

Were they able to get any star-studded names? No, not really. But the skillsets we added and how they'll fit, could result into some really good play.
 
Without any star studded names Ant, Nurk, Winslow and Hart beat the Warriors around the deadline and had to be shut down after winning 4 in a row......people have such short term memories about that eye opening stretch where with just Winslow and Hart's defense....we absolutely looked great and that was all without Dame and CJ..that stretch was probably our best example of "Chauncey ball" and at that point we'd erased Olshey's additions to the roster the previous couple seasons.
 
riverman said:
Without any star studded names Ant, Nurk, Winslow and Hart beat the Warriors around the deadline and had to be shut down after winning 4 in a row......people have such short term memories about that eye opening stretch where with just Winslow and Hart's defense....we absolutely looked great and that was all without Dame and CJ
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That is when I began my strong belief in Chauncey.
Chemistry.
Walter White knew it.
 
Wade Garrett said:
That is when I began my strong belief in Chauncey.
Chemistry.
Walter White knew it.
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In my view right now we're way better than we were starting last season and it's not close. I do love going into the season with underdog predictions from the media though.....those folks saying..might make the play in? I feel more like, might actually have home court advantage in the playoffs ...choices.
 
riverman said:
In my view right now we're way better than we were starting last season and it's not close. I do love going into the season with underdog predictions from the media though.....those folks saying..might make the play in? I feel more like, might actually have home court advantage in the playoffs ...choices.
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I'll bet we're not a top 4 seed.
 
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