<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 28 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It cleared nothing except that Sheed made a lucky shot, and Denver was paying a back to back extra hard time in OT when your tired on a back to back.And AI+Melo had there worse game combined they ever had in the games they played together they were both WAY of. Like 27 points together that should tell ya that it was just a bad game.And even if you wanna think they better then Denver and they are not they still got Rockets, Jazz who I think are better then DET also.They are not better then Denver WEAK EAST makes a huge diff then you people think they double play the weak easy and Denver double plays the hard west.If they are so good how come Cavs in a up and down season are only a few games back?</div> Umm, Detroit was on a back to back too, they played in Milwaukee the day before. Not to mention was without Rip and Webber, and Flip Murray wasn't 100% either, he was suffering from flu-like symptoms too. There's no excuses for Denver man. And everyone wants to say oh its a lucky shot and blah blah blah but you're forgetting the steal for Sheed to get off the lucky shot. I mean come on, 1.5seconds left and you can't inbound the ball to win a road game? All they needed was get the ball to one guy in the blue uniform, it's not that hard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 28 2007, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Jazz have been playing good for 1 season only. And your going to call a championship caliber team worse than them? Are you nuts? Detroit is the 4th best team in the league, no question about it. Denver may be a good team on paper, but they just cant get things done. I am not liking the way AI+melo are playing with their team. Sure as heck they are playing good together. But I dont see the Denver bench getting better or producing with them in the lineup. There is just not enough spotson the floor for them to play the players they want. Fatigue also plays a part. You got 4 players playing 40+ minutes of basketball. Hardly enough time for anyone off the bench to make an impact. Nene, Iverson, Melo, and Camby all play 40 + minutes of basketball. That is jsut absurd. If they get tired who else is left? No one. Thats right. The Pistons, Rockets, and Jazz bench all have better Benches than the nuggets. The Nuggets are not a complete team, and wont be until the players they rely heavily on get some support.</div>No question about is the joke. Rockets are better, and so are the Jazz even if you don't agree about Denver like I said who I think are also better.KL+Nene been great thanks to AI creating for them. And JR is finally starting to get better. LMAO no one except AI has played 40 min on that team look back at the box scores only AI palyed 40+ min most night. Melo had a game with 40+ min a few games ago or w/e, but he don't even play 40+ min consistently.LOOK AT THE BOX SCORES
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Mar 28 2007, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sergey, please type in english. The Nuggets are not better than the pistons though I mean sure it was a lucky shot by sheed, but the pistons were without both rip and Cwebb, if the Nuggets were as good as you say they are then the game shouln't of even came down to that.BTW sergey were do you think the Nuggets will finish in the west? what seed you think they will get?</div>Just like Rip+Webber was out it was all most as if Melo+AI was out they just played a hard game at Cavs before that.Umm they can finish 6th only about a 2 game diff with them and the Lakers don't have the time to get a higher seat now.I think they have a better chance to upset the Spurs then the Suns. I think if they run the Spurs those guys won't be able to keep up for 7 games if needed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 28 2007, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Umm, Detroit was on a back to back too, they played in Milwaukee the day before. Not to mention was without Rip and Webber, and Flip Murray wasn't 100% either, he was suffering from flu-like symptoms too. There's no excuses for Denver man. And everyone wants to say oh its a lucky shot and blah blah blah but you're forgetting the steal for Sheed to get off the lucky shot. I mean come on, 1.5seconds left and you can't inbound the ball to win a road game? All they needed was get the ball to one guy in the blue uniform, it's not that hard.</div>The Bucks LMAO Yeah VERY HARD let me tell you they were probably odering pizza at half time talking if they will let them cut the lead to only 20 and lose by that or keep stacking up the point until it went to a 40 point lead. WOWI agree when AI got doubled for that sec Melo should have cought that ball I think Melo was there not sure why he did not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 28 2007, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Umm, Detroit was on a back to back too, they played in Milwaukee the day before. Not to mention was without Rip and Webber, and Flip Murray wasn't 100% either, he was suffering from flu-like symptoms too. There's no excuses for Denver man. And everyone wants to say oh its a lucky shot and blah blah blah but you're forgetting the steal for Sheed to get off the lucky shot. I mean come on, 1.5seconds left and you can't inbound the ball to win a road game? All they needed was get the ball to one guy in the blue uniform, it's not that hard.</div>This is exactly what I was going to say.It doesn't matter if it was a "lucky shot," it was a poor inbound pass that led to a loss. That is the difference between teams like Detroit and teams like Denver.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Mar 29 2007, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is exactly what I was going to say.It doesn't matter if it was a "lucky shot," it was a poor inbound pass that led to a loss. That is the difference between teams like Detroit and teams like Denver.</div>Or the diff is 2 players getting fouled from the Nuggets with nothing being called for the steal to happen and that shot to go of in the first place.
The Nuggets arn't even a top 6,7 team, why are you saying there better than the pistons?the nuggets have not proven there any good, so if you want to predict how good your nuggets are going to be then do that in another thread.back to the topic, now the Houston Rockets are the 4th best team in the league as nitro mentioned, the jazz and the pistons are just not as good as the rockets, the rockets are a much more talanted team and I really don't think many teams at all are as good defensivly as the rockets are, the rockets own teams when there focused on d, besides that .. they rockets are pretty good with there offense and always seem to on there game and if there not one day, the next day they will and that will defently be a factor in the playoffs which will work to the rockets advantage, now id like to see a pistons/rockets finals, that would be a great matchup between fairly equel teams but I doubt thats going to happen due to the spurs, mavs and suns being just that bit better than the rockets during the reg. season but you never know the rockets may turn out being the best because it's all there for them.
its most definitely the Pistons.followed by Houston or Utah, Cleveland, Miami and the Lakers as of late.and for all of you talking about that Shot by Sheed, it was 20% luck, 15% fame, 5% pleasure, 50% skill,....you get the idea. it was a shot that was 1:25 for Sheed. he practices those all of the time. but it was a horrible inbound and the Nuggets no longer deserved to win after the way they were just lauching shots.its Detroit
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Or the diff is 2 players getting fouled from the Nuggets with nothing being called for the steal to happen and that shot to go of in the first place.</div> That's some bull man, that was a clear steal. Now you really sound like a loser going to the old "he was fouled" bs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Mar 29 2007, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Nuggets arn't even a top 6,7 team, why are you saying there better than the pistons?the nuggets have not proven there any good, so if you want to predict how good your nuggets are going to be then do that in another thread.back to the topic, now the Houston Rockets are the 4th best team in the league as nitro mentioned, the jazz and the pistons are just not as good as the rockets, the rockets are a much more talanted team and I really don't think many teams at all are as good defensivly as the rockets are, the rockets own teams when there focused on d, besides that .. they rockets are pretty good with there offense and always seem to on there game and if there not one day, the next day they will and that will defently be a factor in the playoffs which will work to the rockets advantage, now id like to see a pistons/rockets finals, that would be a great matchup between fairly equel teams but I doubt thats going to happen due to the spurs, mavs and suns being just that bit better than the rockets during the reg. season but you never know the rockets may turn out being the best because it's all there for them.</div>I am a Sixers fan I will always follow AI, and also like Melo so that is why I follow Denver. And I am not predicting anything I am telling you right now. And what other thread? Don't be telling me what to do I am posting how good they are I don't need you telling me what to do don't like it don't read.I might agree about Rockets being 4th best they deff better then DET. They got Yao+T-Mac big men inside is big, and great D. But Denver can still beat them in a 7 game series. Jazz are better then DET not better then Rockets though your right there. Rockets turn out the best? LMAO sorry but no way they beat Dallas, Suns, and the Spurs. Spurs are beatable they are getting old, but Dallas, and Suns I don't think it's close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am a Sixers fan I will always follow AI, and also like Melo so that is why I follow Denver. And I am not predicting anything I am telling you right now. And what other thread? Don't be telling me what to do I am posting how good they are I don't need you telling me what to do don't like it don't read.I might agree about Rockets being 4th best they deff better then DET. They got Yao+T-Mac big men inside is big, and great D. But Denver can still beat them in a 7 game series. Jazz are better then DET not better then Rockets though your right there. Rockets turn out the best? LMAO sorry but no way they beat Dallas, Suns, and the Spurs. Spurs are beatable they are getting old, but Dallas, and Suns I don't think it's close.</div>Serge who do you think is better than the Nuggets? Every team someone mentions about being better than the Nuggets you say oh they def can't be better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PN13 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>its most definitely the Pistons.followed by Houston or Utah, Cleveland, Miami and the Lakers as of late.and for all of you talking about that Shot by Sheed, it was 20% luck, 15% fame, 5% pleasure, 50% skill,....you get the idea. it was a shot that was 1:25 for Sheed. he practices those all of the time. but it was a horrible inbound and the Nuggets no longer deserved to win after the way they were just lauching shots.its Detroit</div>Rockets, Jazz, and Denver are all better then the Pistons. Rockets got Yao/T-Mac a big men inside makes a hue diff. They also play great on D. Jazz got lots of depth Boozer, Deron, Okur, AK47, ect.....Cavs + Lakers are way below Dallas, Suns, Spurs and are also below Rockets, Jazz, Denver, DETIt was more like 70% lucky shot, and 15% bad pass in and 15% Denver getting fouled and the call not being made on the inbound.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 29 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's some bull man, that was a clear steal. Now you really sound like a loser going to the old "he was fouled" bs.</div>Check out AI he was doubled teamed so he could not get it not sure if there was a foul there. But looks like Melo was pulled back from getting the ball. And AI I think could have also been fouled while being double teamed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Mar 29 2007, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Serge who do you think is better than the Nuggets? Every team someone mentions about being better than the Nuggets you say oh they def can't be better.</div>Dallas, Suns, and Spurs are all of course better then the Nuggets. Spurs I think though if Denver runs they can beat Spurs cause I don't know if Spurs can keep up running with Denver in a 7 game series.But Yeah those 3 are deff better then Denver.Rockets possibly also cause when Yao+T-Mac are on fire together with that great D also and there 3 point shooting all that I can agree them being a little better then Denver but deff can be beat by Denver.Jazz, DET, Miami are not better then Denver but close. Miami when Shaq+Wade are both healthy I mean.Cavs, and LA are the next wave they not on the level of Rockets, Denver, Jazz, DET, or even Miami when healthy.Now Kobe is my 2nd fav player but he is the only guy you can count on Odom not sure how he will be. And Bynum I think will be a huge center in this league, but he is still not ready all the way very young.Cavs they can only count on Lebron all the time. Larry Hughes to in consistent if he was more consistent, that be diff maybe. Big Z is getting old also.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Diawsome @ Mar 29 2007, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>a .500 team has no business being mentioned as a 2nd tier team :no3:</div>They are not really a .500 team injurys, suspention, and now finding a way to click had 2nd most diff starting line-ups out there THAT IS A HUGE REASON.
When Miami has both Wade and shaq healthy they are better then the Nuggets, the Pistons when they have Rip and Cwebb healthy are also better than the Nuggets.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Mar 29 2007, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When Miami has both Wade and shaq healthy they are better then the Nuggets, the Pistons when they have Rip and Cwebb healthy are also better than the Nuggets.</div>They are not when Miami is healthy they actually better then DET no one will stop Shaq on thatt eam even at that age unless DET triple teams him and then guys will rain 3's like Wade, Posey, Walker, Kapono, ect like crazy.Camby+Nene I think can cover Shaq berrer then Sheed, and one leg Webber. But I still think it be hard for Denver to cover Shaq your right, but if we can do decent jump with him Camby+Nene together can I think do a decent job then we can beat them in a 7 game series.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They are not really a .500 team injurys, suspention, and now finding a way to click had 2nd most diff starting line-ups out there THAT IS A HUGE REASON.</div>They might not really be a .500 team but they aren't better then the Pistons or on the same level as Utah and Houston.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They are not when Miami is healthy they actually better then DET no one will stop Shaq on thatt eam even at that age unless DET triple teams him and then guys will rain 3's like Wade, Posey, Walker, Kapono, ect like crazy.Camby+Nene I think can cover Shaq berrer then Sheed, and one leg Webber. But I still think it be hard for Denver to cover Shaq your right, but if we can do decent jump with him Camby+Nene together can I think do a decent job then we can beat them in a 7 game series.</div>I don't think the Nuggets will have to worry about that though, I mean as of right now they play the Suns and I think they could beat the Suns because the Suns barely play any D but I still think the Suns will win pretty easily but even if they beat the suns they would have to play a team like the Spurs,Mavs,Rockets and there is no way in hell they could defeat them.
