<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They are not really a .500 team injurys, suspention, and now finding a way to click had 2nd most diff starting line-ups out there THAT IS A HUGE REASON.</div> Also let me remind you that the Nuggets have the lack of a true PG. Don't say AI or Steve Blake because neither of those guys could set up the offense like Andre Miller could and this leaves Denver with a harder time getting baskets than they woudl with a PG. It is true that with offensive prowess in AI/Melo it is not hard for them to score but it would make it much easier. Let me also remind you that they do have the weapons to be good on the defensive end yet they don't. They have arguebely the best shot blocker in the NBA yet they are very weak at that part of the court which will stop them from winning a series against a team like Houston/Utah/Detroit. The team lives and dies on that jump shot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 29 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also let me remind you that the Nuggets have the lack of a true PG. Don't say AI or Steve Blake because neither of those guys could set up the offense like Andre Miller could and this leaves Denver with a harder time getting baskets than they woudl with a PG. It is true that with offensive prowess in AI/Melo it is not hard for them to score but it would make it much easier. Let me also remind you that they do have the weapons to be good on the defensive end yet they don't. They have arguebely the best shot blocker in the NBA yet they are very weak at that part of the court which will stop them from winning a series against a team like Houston/Utah/Detroit. The team lives and dies on that jump shot.</div>I coulden't of said it any better, I agree 100 percent with what you said, the Nuggets don't have a true PG, Blake could never live up to playing against Billups.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Diawsome @ Mar 29 2007, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They might not really be a .500 team but they aren't better then the Pistons or on the same level as Utah and Houston.</div>In a 7 game series they will beat all 3 of those teams even though by record you don't see that. Rockets will give the most problems to Denver with there great D huge guy inside in Yao, and T-Mac and them being able to shoot 3's like crazy.Then Jazz will give them the 2nd most trouble due to there depth. Deron, Boozer, Okur, Harping, AK47 ect...........Then DET who is not better then the Rockets, Jazz, and Denver.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In a 7 game series they will beat all 3 of those teams even though by record you don't see that. Rockets will give the most problems to Denver with there great D huge guy inside in Yao, and T-Mac and them being able to shoot 3's like crazy.Then Jazz will give them the 2nd most trouble due to there depth. Deron, Boozer, Okur, Harping, AK47 ect...........Then DET who is not better then the Rockets, Jazz, and Denver.</div>Read my last post, thats why they can't win a series against any of those teams. Also Houston would defineteley not give more problems than Utah. Marcus Camby can bother Yao in the paint but what will he do the Mehmet Okur in the peremiter. That would stretch out Denver's already weak defense like crazy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In a 7 game series they will beat all 3 of those teams even though by record you don't see that. Rockets will give the most problems to Denver with there great D huge guy inside in Yao, and T-Mac and them being able to shoot 3's like crazy.Then Jazz will give them the 2nd most trouble due to there depth. Deron, Boozer, Okur, Harping, AK47 ect...........Then DET who is not better then the Rockets, Jazz, and Denver.</div>Serge you are arguing something in no way chance can you win. Your points are useless and make no sense. Your team has no depth, no support of the bench, and with one player fatigued, the game changes for them in a second. The Denver nuggets are not even close to being an elite team. Its not use to fill your roster with all stars and all star caliber players, and then leave the spots open with D leaguers. Your not going to win this arguement even if all of BBW were forced to agree with you. Your basing your facts on how you think playes will play, when really they are vastly inconsistent and would not be close to matching up to other teams like Houston, Jazz, and Detroit. And all together Serge, the Nuggets have one a total of <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">1</span> time against the Rockets, Jazz and Pistons combined. Case Closed.
Haha, when Cwebb and Rip are healthy the Pistons are better than Denver? sh*t, I think they're better even without CWebb and Rip healthy. I mean its crazy how Detroit pulled that game out, Rip and Webber not even at the game because of illness, Dale Davis was also sick, Flip Murray had a reported fever of 103 or something like that I believe, Lindsey Hunter was just coming off a suspension so 2/3 weeks without practice time and Detroit still pulled it out. No way Detroit should of won that game even if they were at home if Denver is as good as you say they are.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 29 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Read my last post, thats why they can't win a series against any of those teams. Also Houston would defineteley not give more problems than Utah. Marcus Camby can bother Yao in the paint but what will he do the Mehmet Okur in the peremiter. That would stretch out Denver's already weak defense like crazy.</div>Rockets I think would give more problem to DET. But to Denver actually your right Jazz can hurt Denver more I think.
Why is there even a discussion about DENVER? They are a good team with 2 great players, but they are not a top 6 team, when everyone is healthy, in the West, so they should not be talked about as the 4th best in the league. They are 8th MAYBE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 29 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Serge you are arguing something in no way chance can you win. Your points are useless and make no sense. Your team has no depth, no support of the bench, and with one player fatigued, the game changes for them in a second. The Denver nuggets are not even close to being an elite team. Its not use to fill your roster with all stars and all star caliber players, and then leave the spots open with D leaguers. Your not going to win this arguement even if all of BBW were forced to agree with you. Your basing your facts on how you think playes will play, when really they are vastly inconsistent and would not be close to matching up to other teams like Houston, Jazz, and Detroit. And all together Serge, the Nuggets have one a total of <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">1</span> time against the Rockets, Jazz and Pistons combined. Case Closed.</div>They are deff close they are not with Dallas, Suns, and Spurs but still a contender.And they got JR/KL of the bench KL is really getting more consistent of the bench.And Nene is really starting to be one heck of a force inside now extra problems.I am one you will see. And next year Denver deff be one of the top except Dallas, Suns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ Mar 29 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, when Cwebb and Rip are healthy the Pistons are better than Denver? sh*t, I think they're better even without CWebb and Rip healthy. I mean its crazy how Detroit pulled that game out, Rip and Webber not even at the game because of illness, Dale Davis was also sick, Flip Murray had a reported fever of 103 or something like that I believe, Lindsey Hunter was just coming off a suspension so 2/3 weeks without practice time and Detroit still pulled it out. No way Detroit should of won that game even if they were at home if Denver is as good as you say they are.</div>Pistons are NO not better then Denver. Denver is better even with Pistons having Rip, and Webber.Denver played a hard game against Cavs before. And AI+Melo was pretty much out of the game they scored like 13 and 14 each or w/e it was not good just if they were not playing they were not doing anything except helping DET get more shots that game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 30 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why is there even a discussion about DENVER? They are a good team with 2 great players, but they are not a top 6 team, when everyone is healthy, in the West, so they should not be talked about as the 4th best in the league. They are 8th MAYBE.</div>8th who is better?You people are overrating DET.Dallas, Suns Spurs that is only clear teams better.Rockets, Jazz, are not better then Denver same I can agree.DET is lesser value then Rockets, Jazz, and Denver.And Cavs, and Lakers are on a level lower then that end of story.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>8th who is better?You people are overrating DET.Dallas, Suns Spurs that is only clear teams better.Rockets, Jazz, are not better then Denver same I can agree.DET is lesser value then Rockets, Jazz, and Denver.And Cavs, and Lakers are on a level lower then that end of story.</div>Houston, Utah, LA and Detroit when healthy are EASILY better than Denver. I would be surprised to see Denver take any of those teams, except maybe Utah because they are struggling, to even 7 games. You are a big time Iverson homer, I know... You are overrating Denver soooooo much. They are the Suns with a worse defense and a little bit worse offense too. Denver isn't that good at all, not NEAR the top 4. Houston and Detroit would beat them in 5.
This is just silly. Denver has a losing record in the last 2 months, they are the 7th seed, they lost to Detroit without 2 of their starters....there is no argument at all for Denver... stop being such an Iverson homer...the team is not that good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 30 2007, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Houston, Utah, LA and Detroit when healthy are EASILY better than Denver. I would be surprised to see Denver take any of those teams, except maybe Utah because they are struggling, to even 7 games. You are a big time Iverson homer, I know... You are overrating Denver soooooo much. They are the Suns with a worse defense and a little bit worse offense too. Denver isn't that good at all, not NEAR the top 4. Houston and Detroit would beat them in 5.</div>Rockets and Jazz I don't think so but you can argue sure. Lakers LMAO are not even close same as Cavs there 3rd level team.They deff take Lakers, and they would take DET. Rockets, and Jazz be hard.I am not a Iverson homer what have I said about AI? I am not overrated Denver at all.They are the Suns with worse D little same offense pretty much when clicking yet they are not better then the teams I said? LMAODenver would beat DET in 6.Lakers in 5.Utah in 7And Rockets be hard but also in 7 I think.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 30 2007, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is just silly. Denver has a losing record in the last 2 months, they are the 7th seed, they lost to Detroit without 2 of their starters....there is no argument at all for Denver... stop being such an Iverson homer...the team is not that good.</div>I said nothing about AI STFU already moron.You people underrate Denver. And even more overrate Det.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 29 2007, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rockets and Jazz I don't think so but you can argue sure. Lakers LMAO are not even close same as Cavs there 3rd level team.They deff take Lakers, and they would take DET. Rockets, and Jazz be hard.I am not a Iverson homer what have I said about AI? I am not overrated Denver at all.They are the Suns with worse D little same offense pretty much when clicking yet they are not better then the teams I said? LMAODenver would beat DET in 6.Lakers in 5.Utah in 7And Rockets be hard but also in 7 I think.</div>PFF and S2S found a mate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 30 2007, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PFF and S2S found a mate. </div>Umm w/e that means I have no idea I don't speak sh*t.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 30 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They are deff close they are not with Dallas, Suns, and Spurs but still a contender.And they got JR/KL of the bench KL is really getting more consistent of the bench.And Nene is really starting to be one heck of a force inside now extra problems.I am one you will see. And next year Denver deff be one of the top except Dallas, Suns.</div>Are you telling me that Denver will have a better season than the rest of the NBA including the Spurs? I think you should get banned for being an unbearable homer.
Man Serge why are u even arguin this? Denver? 2nd tier? Man if you could read some of your posts. The Nuggets wouldn't be able to beat Utah, Rockets or The Pistons in a series. You're just sayin the same thing over and over.Now as 4 the 4th best team in the league.. not sure but it's between Utah, Houston and Detroit.
I agree with most on here. Denver definitely hasn't shown anything to be considered the 4th best team. Not even close.
