Who's the missing piece?

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Ok, new thought..

    Package LaMarcus for Carmello

    Sign and trade for Andre Miller

    Sign David Lee

    PG: Andre Miller
    SG: Brandon Roy
    SF: Carmelo Anthony
    PF: David Lee
    C: Greg Oden

    :ghoti:
     
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    Wow! Just like that you used my well written synopsis as fuel for your anti-Nate campaign! Damn You MM! I still think it would work!
     
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    Despite my alterior motives, I think Nash would be a good fit if Nate loosened things up on offense.
     
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    You are kidding, right?
     
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    I think Roy is better than Melo also. Not by a lot though. Aldridge is close ish....sorta kinda.
     
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    Anthony: 19.0 PER (age 24)
    Roy: 24 PER (age 24)
    Aldridge: 19.1 PER (age 23)

    Anthony is about a 20-21 PER player, if you take more of his seasons into account. With Roy and Aldridge, it is perfectly reasonable to use their latest seasons because they've been improving each season...Anthony has plateaued over the past four seasons.

    So, no, not kidding at all. Roy cleanly surpassed Anthony this season. Aldridge was actually dead even with Anthony this year and his current level is only slightly behind Anthony's established level over the past several seasons.

    Anthony is a very good young player but his lack of progression from when he was 21 has prevented him from attaining superstardom. He's a star, Roy is a borderline superstar and Aldridge is a borderline star. Thus, my appraisal was quite spot-on, in my opinion.
     
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    I'm not a homer for either team (Denver, Portland). I think Melo is a cut above Roy and quite a bit better than Aldridge.

    Melo's teams have never been sub .500, and they've been 50 game winners enough. He's proven to be a 30 PPG scorer (contender for scoring title) if the team asks him to. And I'm certain Melo showed himself a better player in the playoffs.

    Aldridge? He's a career 15/6 at PF.
     
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    Are you questioning that Brandon Roy is better than Carmelo? Come on, don't be stupid like Jason "I'll go out of my way to not look biased, no matter how dumb it is" Quick.

    Anthony may rate just a tad above LaMarcus right now, but I think Carmelo has reached his peak. He's a good scorer, but LaMarcus could be a flat out DOMINANT player. As McMillen said, he has the ability to dominate on both ends of the floor. Whether or not he'll ever fully develop is another story. But we already have guys on this team that have enough potential to dominate.

    I also don't like the idea of having a great volume scorer at SF. We really need a defensive role player who can hit the 3 (like Batum). Watching Team USA barely beat crappy Euro teams should show you that having to many one on one scorers isn't good.
     
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    Could be.
     
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    If they traded Deron then they might as well sell the team. Because no one would show up. He is their franchise and everyone in Utah knows it. No way in hell would they trade him unless it was the last year of his contract and and he emphatically demanded it. And even if that happened, Portland would be the last team they would trade him to unless we gave them Roy.

    Bottom line.... Don't waste too much time with this fantasy. But I agree, he would be the final piece.
     
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    There's more to the game than scoring, which is why he's never put up the PER that Roy did in 2008-09 and why his PER isn't much higher than Aldridge's (identical in 2008-09).

    I think we all understand the fallacy of judging individual players by team records. But if you'd like to compare team records to determine who was better between Derrick Rose and Steve Blake last season, be my guest. ;)
     
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    I think that as a raw, talented basketball player - 'Melo might be a better player than Roy. Where he fails - is that he just does not have the basketball IQ and raw determination that Roy exhibit nor is he close in his leadership abilities. 'Melo is an athletic freak - the only reason we do not speak about it all the time is because LeBron is an active player in this league.

    If there are guys that are close in talent - I will take the smarter basketball player every time even if the other guy is more dominant in some flashy category or another - but 'Melo is a fantastic talent and once he actually matured a bit and had a veteran keeping him in line - he flourished this year - even if his PER and offensive production have not shown it.

    LMA is not as good a player as Carmelo is now - nor can he take over a game the way Carmelo can - but when I think LMA has a good chance of catching up to 'Melo is with his defensive play - he can be a great 2nd option on offense and a monster on defense - and I think we are slowly starting to see it emerge.
     
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    Spot on.
     
    Freshtown, Jun 28, 2009
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    What if we offered them Martell Webster and the rights to Jarrett Jack? Turnabout is fair play, right?
     
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