Why Do we even vote?

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  1. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    Anyone over 50 would think you are the anti-christ for even suggesting this. However, it is the correct viewpoint.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I could give two shits about what people think of me.
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    is me agreeing with you pissing you off? Jeez.
     
  4. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    If that's true, he would also clearly have a conflict of interest if he were bisexual, homosexual, or asexual.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Since the majority of Americans do not belong to a church, and most of them are aware there is no mythical super-being in the sky anyway, your solution is pure discrimination.
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    Link? Facts? Seriously... the MAJORITY of Americans don't believe in God or go to church? I would LOVE to see some verifiable statistics on that.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    No. Sorry for the poor wording. I was referring to the over 50 crowd in your previous post.

    My bad. I should have written it more clearly. :cheers:
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Wow did you miss the point.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    One of us did.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Common sense and personal experience.

    Not all people who go to church BELONG to a church. I don't, I am an atheist, but I have gone to many different churches over the course of my life to experience them and investigate their absurd claims. Most people in America, providing they are not of retirement age, have had ample years of factual educational scientific evidence disproving the possibility of anything remotely resembling a "god". It's a leap of logic only the severely retarded or severely isolated could make honestly.

    Americans attend church for the lucrative business contacts (most males fall into this category), or a desperation to belong to something socially (most women), or the need to be considered "good" or "better" than others, but mainly in the end it's out of simple cowardice. They are terrified to buck the crowd mentality and possibly be ostracized for their views. I'd say maybe 10% of church-goers are ignorant enough to actually believe in the possibility of a god. The rest are liars and chickenshits.

    A national lie detector test would reveal a only tiny % who actually believe in that fairy tale shit.

    An end to all tax exemptions and subsidies for these private country clubs, which is what they really are, would easily balance the budget for our country.

    God would want them to pay their way.
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    So in other words, none.
     
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    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    As a hardcore agnostic, I gotta say.... you got some issues, dood.
     
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    That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

    As for my issues with organized religion, yeah, they're major.

    Organized religion is inherently evil. It's this country's biggest enemy and biggest economic drain. It's the standard excuse for all wars and oppression, and the single largest haven in the world for abusers of children and women. If one could eliminate the existence of religion, even at this late stage, mankind might still stand a chance of survival.
     
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    You can argue about what "should be" in terms of everyone having civil unions and religious bodies having religious marriage. But in reality that's pretty much what exists for straight couples. Marriage is civil marriage and they can if they wish have a religious ceremony as well. The religious ceremony has no bearing on legal recognition; that is conferred by the state-issued marriage license. So saying everyone should have the same civil ceremony is in fact exactly what Judge Walker ruled.

    You know if you want to debate a ruling, once again, not a bad idea to actually read it. It's on line and not hard reading, very little legalese. I have zero legal training and got through it in 2 hours and that was writing extensive notes in margins with a busted thumb.
     
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    Thank You God
     
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    Sir, I believe you are the only one that is severly retarded
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I think throwing the term retarded around, on both parts isn't a good idea. I personally doubt there is a god, but can't prove one way or the other.
     
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Can we please maintain civil discourse?
     
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    Main Entry: re·tard·ed
    Pronunciation: \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
    Function: adjective
    Date: 1895

    sometimes offensive : slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

    Wasn't meant as an insult, simply an explanation for why some people in this enlightened age still believe in mythical super-beings who live in the heavens.

    It seems the right term for the point I was making, and anyone it applies to probably wouldn't notice at all.
     
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