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My point is it was going on during both administrations. Neither one did anything about it. Talk about approval all you want but did Obama stop it? no he didn't. Neither are saints. End of story mr barfo

 

So you are telling me an executive order couldn't be made?

 

what?

 

Look, I'm not too crazy about abortion, either, I just think people have a right to decide for themselves how to treat their own body as long as they don't interfere with how I treat mine. Also, are you suggesting like Trump that we need to punish women who get abortions and go back to the days when they aborted by using a coat hanger or by a back alley doctor? Why can't we have the same compassion for these women who mistakenly feel the need for an abortion and spend the same effort trying to help them? Where is that morality?
Are you really advocating for outlawing all things you deem immoral?
As for pornography, I think you have to consider free speech when talking about pornography. I believe the Supreme Court has ruled on this.
The standard we have for Presidents is higher than the standard for you or I for a reason. Trump is way way way outside those standards. I hope you don't need examples.

 

Good news. With the Supreme Court shift, Roe v Wade could go away. They'll be able to make laws that help curb abortions.

But wait. Hold up. I thought making laws wont help gun violence? So some laws will help stop abortions but wont help gun violence. Funny how that works.

 

None of this works logically.

What does work logically is this. Liberals want illegal immigrants to come here whether we can afford it or not. So, using that logic we should stop abortion.

I'm not anti abortion by any means. I'd prefer it to be rare but legal.

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying these are my positions.

 

I’m saying that some people think laws are a ridiculous way to address gun issues but a great way to address abortion. More laws won’t work. But sometimes more laws will work. It’s talking out of both sides of their mouths. Again.

 

I stated two conflicting positions. No abortion and rare but legal. Saying that those are my positions would be erroneous.

 

Who suggested punishing women for that? Not me. That was a friend of mines post on Facebook but there is no mention of punishing of women. There is a point being made. You’re missing it

 

The problem is not the laws, but the people that violate the laws. The irresponsible people.

Example.
We have very strict laws against driving while drunk. With very expensive penalties.

Yet every day in the USA, 29 people die in car crashes involving drunk drivers, 10,000 per year.
Over 1 million people are arrested every year for DUI.
$44 billion in damages every year caused by drunk drivers.

 

If you were speaking out of either side of your mouth it would be an improvement.

 

Yes, but think of what the numbers would be if not for MADD.

 

You’re cute. Remind me of my 3rd grader. He’s adorable too

 

Overall, I agree with you that the stricter laws have helped to lower the numbers, some.

But, there is more to the story.

States with low population densities have shown the greatest impact of strict vs lenient DUI laws. However, in high population states, the stricter DUI laws made little to no difference.

As our countries population increases, the impact of strict laws appear to decrease.

 

I agree with much of it.
Its kind of a dilemma though cause on one hand as a society we need freedoms without huge Gov controlling people, on the other hand we need to be a just nation and not let society and culture run wild with things that hurt families, kids & communities.
Yep, don't separate kids from capable adults, but do something if they are not capable.
Don't let entertainment and culture harm the same children with poisoning of all kinds.
To me it get's back to following the laws and contributing a balance to family and community. Being respectful to one another and willing to address needed change in a civil manner.

 

Of course you'd think I'm missing it.

 

Nobody suggested punishing women for abortions and that’s what you said the statement said so yeah, I would think you’re missing it