Why haven't we been granted an injury exception?

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Not if we applied for, and received, an injury exception.

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    There are D-League bigs that could offer something of value:
    --Eric Moreland: 6'10", 250 lb forward averaging 12.8 pts, 12.2 reb, 2.7 blk (downside, abysmally bad 37.7% FT shooter)
    --Keith Benson: 6'11", 235 lb center averaging 20.5/10.4/2.2

    And of course, there's the afore-mentioned Cliff Alexander who seems to have grown exponentially since we let him go.
     
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    Again, we'd have to have 4 guys out for a minimum of 3 consecutive games before that were available. If we sat Leonard down tonight, an injury exception would be good for only the final two games of the season (and playoffs, of course).
     
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    Rent Kaman...he knows the system already
     
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  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Old news. Look at the date. After the Plumlee/Nurkic trade we are $870K below the luxury tax threshold.

    That's also the Disabled Player Exception, not the Injured Player Exception. Even if we had all the cap space and roster spots in the world, we couldn't use it (of course, if we had all the cap space and roster spits in the world, we wouldn't need to use it):

    "That application can only be submitted on or before January 15 and the exception can be used no later than March 10 of that season or when the player returns, whichever happens first."

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    If there's one thing about NO, it's that he really knows how to manage the cap and exceptions and so on.

    If it made sense to go for the DPE, he would have, even if he wasn't going to end up using it.
     
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    That's 30 days before the last date the exception could be applied for.

    "Plus they would need to open a roster spot"
     
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    We need someone. We are woefully understaffed at the center position right now.
     
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    I have a good feeling Nurk is going to play if needed before the end of the season, and likely in the playoffs.
     
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    If I were Neil (which you all thank God I'm not), I'd sit Meyers for the rest of the season, cut both Quarterman and Connaughton, and sign both Alexander and Benson to vet-min deals for the remainder of the season and playoffs.
     
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    Signing a NBDL post would do exactly how much for the team? Difference for making the playoffs? Doubtful.... Difference of making it to the 2nd round? Uh, yeah right. Seriously no sense in doing anything at this point.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You're confusing the Disabled Player Exception and the Hardship Provision (which does not require freeing up a roster spot):

    "A hardship can be deemed to exist when a team has four players who are sick or injured and have missed at least three regular season games, and will continue to be unable to play. If a hardship is granted, the hardship ends when one of the sick or injured players is physically able to resume playing. The team must then release player(s) to get back to the roster limit, although teams have the option to retain the hardship player and release a different player to get back to the limit."

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    Meyers shouldn't be playing. If his back is as serious as we have heard, the dude should be resting. Period.

    The difference in signing two NBDL bigs for the remainder of the season is that we wouldn't be asking someone who is already hurt, or someone who is much too small, to play center. Call it a health benefit. Nobody else gets hurt (hopefully.)
     
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    We don't have four players sick or missing the requisite games. Just Ezeli, who was out for the whole season.

    I am not confused about anything. We'd have to cut a player to use any exception or to sign a player to a prorated minimum contract.
     
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    We literally don't have one healthy center on the roster right now. But this is a pointless debate because we should've signed someone after Davis went down, nevermind now, so I don't see anything happening.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Also, if we REALLY wanted to free up some additional space to keep under the
    The tweet you posted was specific to the DPE. It even says so. I have no idea why you posted it now. I was from mid-December and we would have had to apply for it by Jan 15 and used it by March 10. It has nothing to do with our current situation.

    We also have Ed Davis, who has missed more than 3 games, and Nurkic, who counts toward the Hardship Provision after tonight. If we sit Meyers for the next 3 games, that gets us to 4 players out for at least 3 games. We could then sign a player to a pro rated contract for the last two games of the regular season, plus the playoffs using the Hardship Provision.

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    The title of this thread asks why we don't use an exception, such as DPE.

    The DPE would allow us to go over the LT to sign someone to a bigger contract than the $894K figure you posted.

    The hardship provision requires league approval. Maybe they'd move fast enough. I don't think they'll approve simply sitting Leonard. It requires him to be injured.

    That still doesn't address the question of whether a guy not on our roster can learn the system enough to contribute in a meaningful way for 1 or 2 games.
     
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    Ed Davis
    Jusuf Nurkic
    Festus Ezeli

    And really Meyers Leonard shouldn't be playing with his back issues.
     
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    The league will sense it's a scam. They'll want their own doctors to examine him.

    If NO thinks it's worth a shot, he'll go for it no doubt.
     
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