There have been many miracles in my life, and countless others, that back up my faith. It's indisputable. Am I saying that the God of the Bible has to be taught in public schools. Not necessarily. But, if not, don't simply trot out Darwin's theory of evolution as fact and call it a day.
Here's an idea. trot out theories that can be tested, repeated, tested again, and verified. "because I read it in the bible" meets the requirements of none of that.
I will say the history books weren't great when I went to school. A lot of whitewashing in them as they were. But it seemed to be getting better until now.
evolution is proven by data collection and carbon dating....making females out of a man's rib with a talking snake is not..nor is putting two of every species of creature on earth on a boat and surviving a world wide flood.....how did they save the Kangaroo? As a teacher..you have to stick to science and doubt the mythology or you'll be using guess work to teach children instead of facts. As with immaculate conception, parting of the dead seas.....etc....you can belong to your Lord of the Ring club but that is not what educators research when teaching knowledge to young minds...evolution has a clear map and is demonstrable down to dna testing....the Adam and Eve myth doesn't make sense scientifically at all and where were Caine and Abel's wives coming from? Their ribs? Yeah...I think you need to face science and respect it given the stories you choose to believe. You're welcome to believe them but they are not stories of proven events...they are myths of blind faith
That's great, you've seen some rainbows in the sky. Not necessarily? So you want it be taught? Science is based in fact. Scientific theories aren't just guesses. They aren't just oh maybe this is what happened. Scientific theories are sets of facts that have been tediously reconfirmed over and over again through tests and experiments. Theologics are for Sunday School.
I too believe in miracles (on a small scale) but others would ascribe them to "cosmic coincidence". And that would be as provable as your assertions (and my beliefs). I have considered the theory of "intelligent design" and find it intriguing, but again, it is just a theory. There are far more facts to back up Darwin's theories than there are to back up religious theories. That is indisputable (so don't even try). Religion's most basic foundation is faith. We are asked to believe in things that cannot be absolutely proven in this life. Basically blind trust in the words of someone who lived two thousand years ago. That is a very person decision and has no place in tax payer funded educational systems.
It wasn't until I went to college that I learned a lot of the darker side of history (tho I had several teachers in HS that hinted at it, but just didn't have the ability to teach it at my HS). When you learn actual history, things make a lot more sense.
If religious people would stick to the "it gives me a good moral compass" (which even that isn't something exclusively found in the bible or a character trait solely done by religious people) that'd be one thing. The bible is a good book of *stories*, some of which have a good point of them. But many of them are horse shit and come from an insanely paternalistic point of view, where women, children and the "others" are not seen as equals. It's almost as if men wrote down stories to validate the fact their societies were controlled and dominated by men.
And I'm fine with going with the Christian school solution if the public schools are hell-bent on simply teaching evolution as the be all, end all.
The King James version was transcribed by (supposedly) Cloistered celibate monks in Europe. ..the same culture that refused to educate women or allow them to pursue higher education.
Yet you dropped out of high school and don't have children to send to school..you have no voice in the matter ...facts are facts...your blind faith doesn't prove any of them wrong ..especially the morphing of all species on the planet for it's entire existance. The wooly mammoth became the elephant...deny it all you want. Be all end all sounds like Christian prophecy to me..not science...science doesn't preach eternal damnation nor heavenly rewards in an after life.
Something like that here too. Though I watched a lot of history channel with my dad too, and talked with him, so I knew what the history lessons in school were leaving out. I would point these things out in class during lessons and my teacher would give me a knowing smile and tell me I was a good student, but couldn't really iterate further. In high school my history teacher was pretty defiant there. He was pretty outspoken about how crappy the textbooks were. We often role played the moments in history. Half the class would be one side of things and the other half the other side. We learned alot about how certain people were treated and how we should be treating each other.
Weird. I learned all the bad stuff that we did in my history classes in high school. That was back in the mid-70's. I had a Political Science teacher as well and he was very liberal.
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It's called a theory for a reason. They teach that in school. But it's also supported by evidence, which is also taught in school.
The utter irony is that I WAS taught that stuff in HS……..a Catholic HS. They were generally fearless in giving us the facts, forcing us to question and letting us reason for ourselves. My HS teachers were the ones who pointed me to Howard Zinn. And then to Richard Wright and James Baldwin, both of whom made me very uncomfortable…..and ashamed. Mission accomplished. Anyone who is afraid of the truth is a snowflake and has no place at the table when decisions are being made.
There is scientific fact to support evolution. What scientific fact is there to support alternative theories?
The history channel wasn't a thing (I don't think?) when I was in HS, but I do remember watching a TON of stuff about history in college (outside of college I mean). History was always my favorite subject (tho I found the revolutionary war era incredibly boring as a student). Always was fascinated by history, but also fascinated by the people who can ignore history and are totally oblivious to the version of propagandized history (or their cultish belief of their religious upbringing) they learned.
You know @ABM must have done some really fucked up shit in his life. He sounds like a recovered crack addict who self-righteously lectures everyone around him about the evils of drugs, coffee, smoking, etc. In every thread AMB posts in he has to preach to everyone about his Christian faith. Seriously dude, where did you bury the hooker?
