Why S2 and forums make it hard to be a fan

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  1. Jayps15

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    Damnit, internet ate my 1st reply.

    Easiest way to answer that is with this link from BBR, showing not only the breakdown from this year, but for every year of his career but with slightly different distances.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01.html#shooting::none
     
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    stupid editing the tabs are all lined up perfect and then the format screws it up
     
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    Somewhere there's a bench scrub who shoots 100% from 20 ft because he made both of them.
     
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    Lets see .459% is the most glaring number especially for a PF who does not have 3PTA's weighing it down.
    23.4 PPG on 20.8 FGAPG

    Durant is scoring 31.8 on 20.5 FGA
    Even a notorious chucker like Melo is putting up 28.1 on 22 FGA
    Love also a 46% shooter is posting 26.4 on 18.5 FGA
     
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    At least he was smart enough to stop at 2
     
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    Wow! Never saw a Mermaid top half fish.
     
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    Hey look people started debating basketball and you ran for the hills. Maybe you are a smart poster after all, know thy weakness.
     
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    Look at those DSL.
     
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    Janitor, those damn kids never sort their recyclables correctly.

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    And what was the team's record when LA was following Nate's "efficient" scoring plan? You're far from the first person to make this "efficient scoring" argument around here. Some very respected posters have made this case. The thing that seems to be missing from the analysis is an understanding of why Stotts has LA shooting more from that distance and what it does for the offense the rest of the team generates. Having a player who can command double teams at that distance opens up three point shot attempts for the guys on the roster who are really good at shooting them, it opens up driving lanes for Lillard to get to the hoop and for those nifty little Batum to Lopez plays. If LA is camped under the hoop it's easy for teams to double him when he gets the ball and it doesn't make defenders move far away from their own man. The Blazers are scoring more points than any other team in the league under Stotts' "inefficient" offense. How much were they scoring under Nate's schemes?
     
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    LA's been pretty inefficient the last couple of months. From the 15-19' range he's only made 49 of 149 shot attempts (32.8%) since my previous post with his earlier stats. I don't know if it's just a slump, the effects of fatigue, the effects of his groin injury or a combination of all of the above. The fact is, though, that it's not surprising that the team's record took a dive when LA's effectiveness from that range slipped. If the Blazers want to make any noise from this point on in the season, they need to get him back to shooting from there like he was through January.
     
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    You're not "debating basketball." You're cherry-picking data to support an opinion you've shared nonstop since you started posting here.

    Are you really a 9th-grade teacher?
     
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    Teeheeheeheehee.
     
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    He's picked an angle and he is running away with it. However, he hasn't given me a response to a reply towards his agenda. Perhaps there was some substance to it.
     
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    They are scoring at a much higher rate partially because of pace and mainly because of the three. Nate never had a great PG Miller was the closest and his range was maybe 15 feet. Roy got hurt, Wallace was not a shooter, and then the team quit. Under that system LA became the focal point drew double teams and then had no one to pass the ball to who could really hurt the defense outside of Matthews and sometimes Batum off the bench. Exchange Lillard for Felton and then show me Stotts offense. LA needs to bang more in the post and learn the three ball.
     
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    Yah I teach mostly 9th graders and the occasional 10th or 11th grader who was held back. While I might be cherry picking data to support an opinion, last I checked that is part of debating. Your typical response has been I did not know LA shoots jump shots. Riverman offered valid examples to support his opinion, Eblazer has used numbers to back up his opinion, all your doing is posting condescending and inflammatory remarks and then ducking out while others have a discussion.

    Yes, Portland was successful with LA shooting long jumpers early on when he was shooting a career high from that range. It also helped that Matthews was also shooting a career high at that time as well. Once LA's numbers started to regress back to his normal levels the team began to lose more. When LA was making 47% from 15-19 feet it did not hurt the team for him to take 40% of his shots from there, when he started shooting 32% from the same area and continued to shoot the same amount or more shots from that area things got worse and it really hurt the team.

    LA is not Dirk he has not shown the ability to shoot consistently high percentages from 15-22 feet, while he can make that shot he would be much better served with some variety in his game, LA needs to improve his post game and learn to shoot the three this summer, by doing so he will be much harder to defend and the team will be better for it.
     
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    Thanks for lowering my opinion of you, suggesting someone has a mental handicap is a personal insult and against the rules. Furthermore, my cousin has Aspergers and it makes his life tough, he has a hard time communicating with people and because of it has very few friends, he is also heavily picked on at school, to the point of being borderline suicidal.

    Troll my posts all you want but your better than this act like it.
     
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    And what has happened to the 3 point shots since LA went into a slump with his midrange game? It's taken a nosedive as well because teams haven't had to double LA. Spacing the court is critical and that doesn't happen when your 2 bigs are camped under the basket and everyone else is at the 3point arc.
     
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